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We came across a pharmacy with a toy and that's lost it out. We were shot through the broken glass and had ourselves a look around.

I'm Madison, I'm Madison, the Estelle and MacKop for the mouth.

Hello everybody and welcome to Saubones, a marital tour of misguided medicine. I'm your co-host Justin MacCorey.

And I'm Sydney MacCorey. What's with the congenial?

It just feels so tickled to be doing this show. It's a delight to get to work with my wife and I'm just happy to be recording this podcast.

Me too, Justin. I'm excited this week.

Lately, Justin, there's been a lot of discourse in the world, in the media, in the news about sex and gender. And it occurred to me that we've never really done just like that as a topic on our show.

We talk about sex and gender and from a both a scientific and a historical perspective, what, how have these ideas either changed or maybe just our understanding of them, our knowledge of them has grown and evolved over time.

The reason I think it's so important is that I keep seeing this argument lately that while we may believe, and these are very much like Western, a lot of this American sort of thinking, but also like reflects a lot of Western ideas about gender, that while maybe now we're open to the possibility that gender is not binary, that gender could be fluid, could be a spectrum.

We see these arguments that like, well, but sex is not, sex is binary, sex is science, sex is biology, obviously we all know this.

And there are a lot of false arguments that are predicated on that, that as an accepted truth.

That.

But it is not a truth. It is wrong.

It seems like that's a lot of people like to frame the discourse as feelings or emotion or identity or society, whatever versus hard, cold science and you, Sydney, are here to rip science from their grasping hands.

Well, I just think if you're going to go back to the home team as it were.

If you're going to try to claim some, like that some sort of belief system, basically your own personal beliefs and biases are based in science, you better be right.

You better be right or sitting on come for you, ask the wellness community, Sydney going come.

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