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🗓️ 28 September 2024
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Since Hamas’s attack on Israel last October 7, the term “settler colonialism” has become central to public debate in the United States. A concept new to most Americans, but already established and influential in academic circles, settler colonialism is shaping the way many people think about the history of the United States, Israel and Palestine, and a host of political issues.
This short book is the first to examine settler colonialism critically for a general readership. By critiquing the most important writers, texts, and ideas in the field, Adam Kirsch shows how the concept emerged in the context of North American and Australian history and how it is being applied to Israel. He examines the sources of its appeal, which, he argues, are spiritual as much as political; how it works to delegitimize nations; and why it has the potential to turn indignation at past injustices into a source of new injustices today. A compact and accessible introduction, rich with historical detail, the book will speak to readers interested in the Middle East, American history, and today’s most urgent cultural-political debates.
Adam Kirsch is the author of several books of poetry and criticism. A 2016 Guggenheim Fellow, Kirsch is an editor at the Wall Street Journal’s Weekend Review section and has written for publications including The New Yorker, Slate, The Times Literary Supplement, The New York Times Book Review, Poetry, and Tablet. He lives in New York. His new book is On Settler Colonialism: Ideology, Violence, and Justice.
Shermer and Kirsch discuss settler colonialism and its implications for current events, particularly in Israel. Kirsch explains the ideology behind labeling Israel a settler colonial state, tracing its roots to historical colonization. They explore anti-Semitism on college campuses, the complexities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and settler colonialism’s critique of Western civilization. The conversation delves into the broader implications of this ideology, including how it complicates discussions of justice and historical accountability.
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0:00.0 | You're listening to the Michael Sherman Show. The Michael Sherber Show Settler colonialism, colonialism, ideology, violence, and justice. |
0:31.3 | Wow, Adam, I read your book. It's thankfully thin. A lot of books I get are like 800 pages long and it takes me forever. |
0:39.0 | So I really enjoyed it a lot, but before we get into all that, that you know I knew your father back in the 90s |
0:46.4 | Jonathan yes he did a couple talks first at Caltech we had a distinguished lecture series at Caltech |
0:55.9 | and because he wrote on the Bible and what was his name is the harlot on the side of the road that's right yeah absolutely |
1:00.1 | and basically the theme is can you believe that's in the Bible? |
1:05.0 | Right, exactly, exactly. |
1:07.0 | No, it's a family tradition. |
1:10.0 | Yeah, and then he did a book on Moses, I think a biography of Moses, right? |
1:13.7 | That's right. |
1:14.7 | I remember, kind of the take-home message for me was, there probably was no Moses, or if there was, |
1:20.8 | he didn't lead a 30 years in the desert group of people and all that stuff. |
1:26.5 | There's no archaeological evidence for that. |
1:28.6 | But the story, it's a story, it's like a literary truth. You know, it's like an important novel that has deeper |
1:37.0 | mythical themes about human nature and society and so on. Why isn't that good enough? |
1:42.3 | Why does it have to be true in an archaeological |
1:45.1 | sense? Something like that. Yeah. So that was that was interesting. Yeah and |
1:50.2 | then and he worked at if I recall he worked at the LA Times I think he edited me when I did some |
1:55.2 | op-eds there but I may be. |
1:56.8 | Could be he was he was at the LA Times he practices law that's his main occupation but he also has written for the LA Times |
2:05.3 | and lots of other places. Right yeah all right Adam how do you go from writing poetry |
2:12.0 | and reviews for all these wonderful publications to writing about |
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