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Spiegel & Holmes Show

Seth Wickersham found Carl Williams to be 'endearing' (Hour 2)

Spiegel & Holmes Show

Audacy

Sports

4.6632 Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

In the second hour, Laurence Holmes and Sarah Spain were joined by author and ESPN senior writer Seth Wickersham to discuss Bears quarterback Caleb Williams' response to Wickersham's reporting about him in his upcoming book "American Kings: A Biography of the Quarterback." After that, Holmes and Spain discussed how the coverage of Williams is affected by the current media landscape.

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0:00.0

First, let's start off with what everybody would love to ask about.

0:02.7

It's coming to my attention that the quarterback's been out in the media over the last week.

0:07.2

This whole storm that happened.

0:09.4

It wasn't something that we wanted to happen at this point.

0:12.7

I think that Carl wanted his son to have the best chance of success and to go to a know, had an established and innovative offensive mind.

0:22.3

As it got closer, it was just clear that their options were limited.

0:25.6

Caleb, Caleb, does your dad speak for you?

0:28.0

No.

0:28.5

No.

0:30.2

I actually shut my dad down quite a bit.

0:33.0

He went to the combine.

0:34.0

He met with the Bears, and he met also with Kevin O'Connell, head coached the Vikings, and he really vived well with O'Connell so much to the point, he met with the Bears, and he met also with Kevin O'Connell, head coach of the Vikings,

0:37.9

and he really vived well with O'Connell, so much to the point where he kind of started to dream

0:43.0

of working with him.

0:44.6

I had a good visit at the other place, Minnesota, with Kevin O'Connell.

0:48.0

He just won Coach of the Year award and things like that, so obviously good staff and things

0:51.9

like that.

0:52.4

Alex Smith really took it upon himself to teach Patrick Mahon these things that no one taught him.

0:57.5

How to watch film, the ways you do it from the inside out.

1:00.3

That's the type of instruction that the Bears didn't provide at times for Caleb Williams.

1:04.7

And I think it's a massive indictment on that staff.

1:07.4

That was the funny one that came out.

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