Separation of Church and State

Civics 101

NHPR

Society & Culture, Government, History

4.2 • 2.6K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

What did Jefferson mean when he wrote about a "wall of separation" between the church and the state? How have we interpreted the pair of clauses in the 1st Amendment regarding religion? And finally, what is the current relationship between church and state when it comes to the Supreme Court, religious schools, taxes, and growing religious nationalism? Today we talk to Katherine Stewart, author of The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism and Morgan Marietta, Chair of Political Science at the University of Texas, Arlington and founding editor of the SCOTUS Decisions Series. Support our mission to explore how our government works. Donate $60 to our show today and receive a vintage Civics 101 hat. CLICK HERE: Visit our website to see all of our episodes, donate to the podcast, sign up for our newsletter, get free educational materials, and more! To see Civics 101 in book form, check out A User's Guide to Democracy: How America Works by Hannah McCarthy and Nick Capodice, featuring illustrations by Tom Toro. Check out our other weekly NHPR podcast, Outside/In - we think you'll love it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hannah, you don't want to, like, come clean on the most embarrassing civics gaff that
0:13.7	you've made?
0:14.7	I...no.
0:15.7	I don't want to do that.
0:17.6	No.
0:18.6	I was going to start with mine, but I am just not going to do it.
0:22.2	I'm not going to admit my most ignorant gaff since I started this job.
0:26.1	It's too embarrassing to even say out loud.
0:28.7	But if any of you happen to see me in the real world and you ask me in person, I will
0:32.3	tell you.
0:34.0	So I bring it up because Hannah, you refrained from referencing the West Wing until your
0:39.6	government shut down episode.
0:41.9	And today, I break my fast.
0:45.7	I start with a West Wing episode that saved me from another blunder.
0:51.5	The law, separation of church and state.
0:53.8	Who told you that?
0:54.7	You know exactly what I'm talking about, so the government and the church are not supposed
0:59.2	to be the same thing.
1:00.4	And you think there's a law?
1:01.4	There is.
1:02.4	What kind of law?
1:03.4	What the hell?
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