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Sentencing SCANDAL-How Did Convicted Predator Walk Free? Psychologist Unpacks Jesse Mack Butler Case

Hidden True Crime

Hidden True Crime

Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime, News, News Commentary

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 103 minutes

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After Lauren broke down the Jesse Mack Butler case, John is here with his analysis...how a now convicted predator, is walking free with no jail time, what risks that creates and how society sees cases like these. Jesse Mack Butler Backstory: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sadistic-teen-predator-they-refused-to-stop/id1521619380?i=1000738639418 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0y1YfCREO2HqBX5WwST4c0?si=be73ece100ab42fb Sponsors OneSkin: Get 15% off OneSkin with the code HIDDEN at https://www.oneskin.co/hidden #oneskinpod Sundays for Dogs: Make the switch to Sundays. Go right now to http://sundaysfordogs.com/HIDDEN and get 50% off your first order. Or, you can use code HIDDEN at checkout. About Hidden True Crime What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Based on the worldwide best-selling novel.

0:02.0

Why do you want this job?

0:03.0

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0:23.0

I want you to feel scary. back. Sydney Sweeney. You'd lie it about everything. Amanda Seifred.

0:23.0

What kind of monsters are we?

0:25.4

I want you to feel safe here.

0:27.9

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0:29.8

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0:31.0

Hello, Gems.

0:33.9

Thank you for joining us tonight.

0:34.9

I'm Lauren Matthias.

0:39.3

This is Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist. And we're going to unpack a case that I just covered in a full backstory. It's about Jesse Mac Butler.

0:47.0

It's an important episode. And before we jump into discussing this case, a trigger warning.

0:55.0

This episode is going to include SA, S-Assault, and details about DV.

1:03.3

It's going to be difficult to discuss.

1:07.2

This is a case outside of Stillwater, Oklahoma.

1:14.7

It's a small college town known for Oklahoma State University.

1:17.7

High school athletics are a very big deal in this town.

1:21.4

But behind this sort of tight-knit community,

1:30.2

a horrifying series of events unfolded at the local high school, still water high school, that would expose potential cracks in the justice system. So Jesse Mac Butler, who is he, he's an 18-year-old

1:38.0

high school student. He's the son of a prominent local figure in athletics. And he was convicted of a series of assault he committed against female classmates.

1:50.2

Jesse Mac Butler was 17 years old when the events happened that led to his charges.

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