Hello and welcome back to Close Reeds here on the Close Reeds Podcast Network. I'm David Kern,

and I am joined by Karen Swallow Pryor and Heidi White. Karen, Heidi, how's it going?

It's going great.

Yeah, doing great.

Thanks for being back on the show, back here to talk about sense and sensibility.

We are here to discuss chapters 16 through 22.

I think it would be the end of volume one for those readers who are reading an edition that does include all three volumes.

I was alerted to the fact, I asked last week whether all editions have that, and it is not the case that all editions have that.

Many of our listeners said that they do not have it broken down the way we had kind of had it on the schedule.

So I asked, I think someone said they were going to send me on Facebook,

that they were going to send me the breakdown of the chapters,

not broken down that way, so I can post that as well.

So I apologize for confusing those of you that don't have the three volumes

and asking you to do math.

It's a great hardship.

So again, we are here to discuss the end of volume one. It is chapter 16 through 22. I think through these first three episodes,

the math should be pretty standard. We should be okay. And starting next week, it might get a

little more complicated. Before we dive in, though, I want to say a word from our friends over

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