Hello everybody, today my guess is Senator Ronald Carol Johnson of Wisconsin who was until the Democrats took control of the Senate.

He was the chair of the Senate Homeland Security Committee and a lot of the people who watch this podcast are familiar with Senator Johnson for a series of hearings that he conducted on.

And particularly on therapies for the COVID-19 crisis and peer quarry I think was one of your witnesses but many many other witnesses and revelations that came out of your hearing and I think for many of us who are concerned about government policies and about the.

The reasonability and the scientific basis for the countermeasures and the weird totalitarian kind of shenanigans and monkey business that we see.

I think should concern every American democratic and Republican you were kind of a voice of reason and and hope for people who are, you know, are looking at this with great concern so I want to thank you and I want to thank you for joining me today.

Well, I appreciate it. I appreciate the kind words. You know what was amazing about that Bobby is I thought I was doing a public service holding hearings asking just highly qualified doctors that had the compassion.

You know what happened is you actually treat COVID patients and then provide information you know what what happened is resolved after my first hearing on early treatment and again it was a hearing on early treatment.

I myself and the group of doctors Dr. Peter McCollock, Dr. Harvey Rich, Dr. George Fried were labeled by the New York Times and Dr. Shah, the snake oil salesman of the Senate.

So it is surprised me is just the close minded approach to this. You know, Dr. McCollock talked about the four pillars of a pandemic, which is first you try and control the contagion.

Secondly, early home treatments, the third pillar would be late hospital treatment and then the fourth pillar vaccine.

What's controversy about that? I just don't get it. I just I've been amazed at the close mind approach to dealing with a pandemic that caught basically the world by surprise.

We didn't have we never witnessed this virus before. And so we had that we actually had to have doctors practice medicine, but those that had the courage and compassion practice medicine were vilified and worse.

Now, I mean, I think one of the great revelations for people when they heard, be a quarry and and Peter McCollock speak and how they crystallize the issue, which is, you know, we were constantly being told we've got to flatten the curve by being locked inside and they came to you and they said the way to flatten the curve is through early treatment.

We start treating people when they get sick so they don't ever have to go to the hospital and the standard of care under Tony Fauci's regimen was that you get the COVID test.

You find out you've got COVID you wait three weeks until you're so sick that you can't breathe and then you just end on the hospital.

And what these doctors were saying was, you know, let's not let it get that far. There's a lot of treatments that we are seeing.

Not just a little, but mountains appear of you science that says if you get if you intervene early with these treatments, you never have to go to the hospital.

I think it was just stunning at Dr. Fauci and you know Bill Gates and the people who seemed to be running the countermeasures in the COVID response were absolutely militant about not treating people early.

No, it made no sense to me, man, early on when I first heard of that missing state legislator that was treated and she said she was cured by hydroxychloric when I'm going, man, would that be fabulous. I mean that would be the silver bullet to this pandemic.

If we really had a existing drug, even better yet a cheap generic drug that could be repurposed for this, you know, something that is available in the billions of doses.

It's been around for in the case of hydroxychloric when 65 years have been proven very, very safe. Of course, no drugs, 100% safe.

I mean, that is the silver bullet that we could put this this pandemic behind us.

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