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I'm David Remnick.

On today's Politics and More podcast, I talk to Senator Al Franken.

Eight years into his service as a U.S. Senator, it's getting a little hard to remember the original Al Franken.

That Franken was a comedy writer, one of the founding writers on Saturday Night Live.

And that was the Franken who put on really tight pants one night and gyrated obscenely in a killer imitation of Mick Jack. You might want to go to YouTube and watch the whole thing.

You know, and it's also pretty hard to remember that the senator from Minnesota was also the guy who did Stuart Smalley's Daily Affirmations.

Okay, today I've decided to talk about something I really know nothing about, politics.

Basically, I'm very apolitical.

I guess the only politicians I've really ever admired are Martin Luther King,

although a woman in my Al-Anon group said he was a compulsive sex addict, and Mahatma Gandhi,

who a woman in my overeaters anonymous group said had an eating disorder.

But that's okay.

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