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WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch

Sen. Ron Johnson Wants to End Government Shutdowns for Good

WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch

The Wall Street Journal

Society & Culture, News

42.7K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Congress barrels toward a government shutdown next week, with little progress on a funding deal, as Democrats use their leverage to seek about $1.5 trillion in spending, including on ObamaCare subsidies. Sen. Ron Johnson discusses his plan to end these dramas by automatically extending flat funding, plus why he opposes legislation to ban Congress from trading stocks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Potomac Watch.

0:23.8

Congress barrels toward another deadline to fund the federal government with a potential shutdown now looming at midnight on Tuesday.

0:31.5

If that happens, it would be the fourth federal shutdown in a dozen years, leading the senator joining us today to conclude that

0:39.0

surely there's got to be a better way. Welcome, I'm Kyle Peterson with the Wall Street Journal.

0:45.8

We're pleased to have here with us today, Senator Ron Johnson, on location from the great state of

0:51.1

Wisconsin. And, Senator, unless you have some big news to break, neither of us

0:55.4

knows if Uncle Sam is going to be open for business five days from today. But what's your perspective

1:01.2

on the state of play as we sit here on Friday afternoon? The House has passed a bill to extend

1:07.3

current funding until shortly before Thanksgiving. Is there much hope of getting to the

1:12.7

60 Senate votes needed to get that through the upper chamber? Well, Kyle, let me just start with the

1:16.8

question. Aren't you getting sick and tired of this? This is my 15th year. I am beyond sick and

1:23.2

tired of this. The current state of play is Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, their opening, negotiating

1:30.3

stances, will give you a four-week CR. In other words, we'll fund the government for another month,

1:35.3

and all we're asking in exchange is just a mere $1.5 trillion of additional spending over 10 years.

1:41.3

That's it. You know, entirely reasonable. What the House has done

1:44.7

is they passed a relatively clean continuing resolution till right before Thanksgiving. I'm not

1:50.8

particularly nuts about that. That's the same old playbook. No matter who's in charge,

1:55.3

neither side can get the 60 votes in the Senate because, you know, we don't have the supermajorities.

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