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The Brian Lehrer Show

Sen. Murphy Sounds the Alarm on Authoritarianism

The Brian Lehrer Show

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4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Senator Chris Murphy talks about his critique of the Trump administration and what he calls a "relentless, coordinated assault" on democracy and the latest headlines.

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Laird Show. I'm WNYC. Good morning, everyone. Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy is with us.

0:16.5

Since the election last November, he's been perhaps the leading voice among Democrats in sounding

0:22.0

the alarm about authoritarianism.

0:24.6

He's concerned not just about the eventual, but the imminent end of democracy as we know it.

0:29.8

But he's also been a leading critic of his own party in some significant ways.

0:34.3

He joins us now to talk about those things and some breaking issues in the headlines today.

0:39.4

Senator, we always appreciate when you come on with us. We counted 13 times since you first started

0:44.6

running for the Senate in 2012. Welcome back to WNYC. 13 times. It wasn't great to be with you. Thanks for

0:52.6

having me back. Always enjoy it.

0:54.7

Lucky 13.

0:55.6

So you have said, quote, we have months, not a year before our democracy is rendered so damaged such that it can't be repaired.

1:06.0

Unquote.

1:06.6

That's quite a doomsday scenario.

1:08.7

Why only months in your view and what is so damage that it can't be repaired look like?

1:14.9

Well, first of all, that's not inevitable.

1:18.1

I think Trump is waging a very purposeful, very planned, coordinated assault on our democracy.

1:23.8

His goal is to rig the elections so that even if his approval ratings are

1:29.6

mired in the 30s, the opposition party doesn't have enough strength or oxygen to be able

1:34.5

to ever win. That's actually a pretty familiar state of affairs in quasi-democracies. That's

1:39.8

what happens in places like Turkey and Hungary, many other places that have elections.

1:46.2

The opposition party maybe wins at the local level but can never really win at the

1:50.7

national level because the rules are just tilted towards the regime.

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