Sen. Mark Kelly’s ‘Illegal Orders’ Warning and the Pentagon’s Response

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🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Senator Mark Kelly appeared in a video alongside other veterans now serving in Congress, telling service members, “Our laws are clear: you can refuse illegal orders.” The Pentagon has since opened an investigation.

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0:23.3	Democrats in Congress who called on U.S. troops not to obey illegal orders from the Trump
0:28.7	administration and will discuss what has happened since, including calls for many of you who
0:34.2	have served in the military about your training when it comes to illegal orders.
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