Sen. Bernie Sanders on 'fighting oligarchy' and rebuilding the Democratic Party

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🗓️ 23 April 2025

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Vermont Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders talks about his Fighting Oligarchy Tour and explains where the political battle lines are right now on hot-button cultural issues, health care and more. And, the Food and Drug Administration is responsible for ensuring a safe food supply. But cuts to the FDA have called into question the agency's ability to maintain that standard. NBC News' Suzy Khimm shares what the impact could be. Then, climate change is impacting water supplies around the world. But desalination — pulling fresh, drinkable water from saltwater— can offer some relief. OceanWell CEO Robert Bergstrom and MIT mechanical engineer Amos Winter join us to share more on their work with desalination.

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0:00.0	Support for here and now anytime comes from MathWorks, creator of MATLAB and Simulink software for technical computing and model-based design.
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0:17.5	WBUR Podcasts, Boston.
0:23.3	There are significant numbers of people in this country who are absolutely disgusted and appalled by what's happening.
0:34.3	Bernie Sanders on fighting oligarchy and where his movement goes from here.
0:48.9	It's Wednesday, April 23rd, and this is here and now anytime, from NPR and WBUR. I'm Chris Bentley.
0:58.2	Today on the show, cuts at the Food and Drug Administration have some people worried about food
1:04.1	safety. And with global temperatures rising, dry countries need new sources of drinking water. That's why researchers are
1:13.1	looking for better ways to desalinate groundwater. The majority of water you find in the
1:18.5	ground around the world is salty. So there's literally hundreds of millions of people who could
1:23.5	benefit from this around the world. Ocean pods and solar power purifiers coming up in about 15 minutes.
1:34.7	But first, as some Democrats search for a new direction for their party, two prominent progressives
1:41.8	say it's past time to focus on economics and class.
1:46.8	Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, an independent who caucuses with the Democrats,
1:50.9	has been touring the country with New York Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
1:55.5	drawing huge crowds under the banner of fighting oligarchy.
2:00.4	Robin Young caught up with Sanders yesterday.
2:03.0	Here's their conversation.
2:04.7	Hi.
2:05.1	Oh, I'm good, but you know, you are drawing these huge crowds,
2:08.9	but Democrats are at an historic low in approval in a Gallup poll release this week.
2:13.6	What do you think the disconnect is?
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