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For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Seeing and Loving Your Body (and Yourself) With No Shame: Jessamyn Stanley

For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Jen Hatmaker

Society & Culture, Relationships

4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 July 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

We’re back with maybe the most foundational episode in our Being Seen and Heard series–and it’s all about how we see ourselves. Were you taught to love yourself when you were growing up? Many of us never grew up hearing anything about embodiment, and maybe we’ve treated our bodies as “the enemy” for most of our years. Maybe you grew up in a time where you didn’t see people that looked like you, or had your body type represented in magazines, on TV or in movies. Perhaps you even had shame about your body (or still do), and you bought into diet culture and were constantly worried about your size and the number on the scale. It’s hard to see ourselves as beautiful when we’re looking outside ourselves for a standard of beauty. Our guest today is doing the good work of helping people see themselves differently, and it’s giving them freedom to love themselves for who they are today. Jessamyn Stanley has become a powerful voice for wellness and body acceptance (she also dubs herself the “Beyonce’ of yoga” - who can’t get behind that?). After attending yoga classes with a friend, Jessamyn fell in love with it, but she noticed that she didn’t see anyone who looked like her or had a body like hers–and when she moved to a different city and wasn’t attending yoga classes anymore—she craved a community to share her practice–except she wanted all kinds of people and body types to be a part of it. She began sharing her yoga practice on Instagram in 2012 and was amazed by the overwhelming response from many who had never done yoga before because they had felt just like Jessamyn had–that maybe it wasn’t for “people like them.” Her fledgling Insta-yoga classes grew into an organization called The Underbelly, a unique and inclusive digital wellness experience that draws thousands of people into its safe, accepting space. Jen and Jessamyn touch on these topics:  Jessamyn’s experience being ashamed of her body as a middle schooler and being bullied for being different and how she looks at those years of bullying as a revelation that everyone is self conscious about their bodies-bullies included The realization we all have at the end of the day; all we have is ourselves-and if we can accept ourselves as we are right now-not who we thought we should be, or who we might be-we’ll enjoy the ability to be fully present and authentic in all of our encounters Debunking the long held notion that many people have about black women (and also that black women have been taught to believe) that they are “stronger” and “superwomen,” and what it means to allow themselves moments of rest and self-care  Key changes that could be made to empower everyone to have their own agency toward self care, by making it possible for anyone-no matter how much money you make, or where you live-to participate in wellness practices like yoga  Thought-Provoking Quotes: “Middle school was a time when I was really heavily bullied. That experience for me, looking back, was one of the greatest experiences because what it was actually teaching me is: everyone is self-conscious about their body. There's no one who is not self-conscious. And the person who bullies is having the most traumatic experience.” -Jessamyn Stanley “If I am all I have, then I have to learn to accept myself where I am right now. Not where I could be in the future, or where I thought I should have been 10 years ago. Like, what does it mean to just be who I am today?” -Jessamyn Stanley Resources: Leslie Kinzel - Body acceptance writer Maryanne Kirby - Body acceptance writer Nicolette Mason - Fat fashion blogger Dianne Bondi - Yoga practitioner Bikram Yoga Guest Links: Jessamyn’s TikTok Jessamyn’s Instagram Jessamyn’s Twitter  The Underbelly Yoga Jessamyn’s People Magazine feature  Jessamyn's Books @theBabySharkClub - Jessamyn’s dog's Instagram Connect with Jen! Jen’s website Jen’s InstagramJen’s Twitter Jen’s FacebookJen’s YouTube To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, Jen Hatmaker here. Welcome to the show you guys. We are back for another

0:10.1

episode in our for the love of being seen and heard series and I am loving it. Just loving

0:18.5

it. Every single episode to me has gone fire. We're basically hearing from women who are

0:24.7

simply paving the way for us in a million spaces. Like they are bringing things to life that maybe

0:33.6

are not the popular or privileged ways in which to think or they're giving us permission to claim

0:42.8

our space in the world without shame and hesitation and their advocates. They're leading the charge in

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all kinds of areas. Normalizing mental health issues, giving us permission to live out our grief,

0:55.7

showing a path forward in the face of racism or gender bias, advocating for people. It's just

1:03.1

incredible, incredible women in this series and I'm so in awe of them and I'm learning from them

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and I'm proud of their work and I want you to know who they are. So our guest this week couldn't

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come at a better time for me. I mean that. I really mean that. Like the area in which she works,

1:25.8

I would say if I'm just being honest is probably the area that just personally in the privacy of my

1:35.2

own brain takes up the most real estate that I don't want to give it. The most negative real estate

1:41.6

I should say. And I know because this is a conversation that we host in our community frequently that

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a ton of you feel the exact same way. First of all, we have been groomed to feel that way. We have

1:53.5

been conditioned to feel this way and it's going to take concerted effort to push back against it.

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So one of the things I mentioned recently if you follow me on socials is that some things that

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I wanted this summer intentionally to do more of and less of. I just I wanted to treat summer with

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intention. And so one of the things that I wanted to do more of is just move my body like in any way

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that I'd like to not in the old yep you like I can feel it physically. I have not really moved

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this entire calendar here. And so I'm a key and I'm stiff. I have no flexibility. But really for

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me the biggest thing is that I can just feel the stress and anxiety that has just built up in my

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