Hey huge thank you for joining us Jay. How's it going, man?

Thanks, Sean. It's going great. Glad to be back.

Happy to talk about a new topic here with you. We haven't we haven't done this yet. So it's going to be fun.

Yeah. Did you get a lot of follow through on the stuff we did with Klaus Schwab?

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I think we've got a few thousand subscribers out of that. We get a lot of a lot of good comments. So really,

really thankful to you, really happy to be back.

Oh, it's good to hear it. And where do you want to start then with the Vatican?

Well, I think first thing that comes to mind about the Vatican is that the Vatican is the world's oldest intelligence agency.

A lot of people don't know that they might think of the CIA or the NSA or something like that or MI6 when they think about intelligence agencies,

but really it's the Vatican that's been there for the longest that's been involved in this game.

And if we go back to the early middle ages, there was this time period when in early Christianity,

there was a shift where the one the Roman Empire fell to the Visigoths, you had the rise of the papal, what's called the papal states.

And this was the idea that the Vatican could fill that cultural gap that was missing now that the Roman Empire had collapsed.

And so this gave the opportunity for a lot of political power.

And although that was kind of contrary to previous Christian teaching and doctrine, the Vatican backed this up with a document known as the donation of Constantine, which is a famous forgery.

So we start to begin to see the capitulating too in the desire for a lot of political geopolitical power.

And this gets even stronger by the time of the early middle ages when we come to what was called the Carolinian period with Charlemagne.

Charlemagne wants to have his own control over the Western Empire. There's already a visiting empire in the east.

And so Charlemagne gets the Pope of that time to crown him the Emperor of the West.

And after that, we begin to have a lot more geopolitical influence in the Vatican.

And by the time of the Renaissance period, the late middle ages, we get a lot of really corrupt folks, a lot of nepotism.

We get the Borges, we get Medici's, we get Alexander VI.

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