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The Generation Why Podcast

Sebastian Burns And Atif Rafay - 297

The Generation Why Podcast

Wondery

True Crime, Case, Trial, Conspiracies, 855520, Government, Unsolved, Society & Culture, Missing Person, Controversy, Exhibit C, Serial Killer, Crime, Murder, Documentary, Conspiracy

4.618.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2018

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

July 13th, 1994. Bellevue, Washington. Sebastian Burns (19) and Atif Rafay (18), who had been in Bellevue for a number of days to visit Atif's parents, arrive at the home around 2am to find a terrible scene. Burns calls the police to tell them of a break-in and the deaths of his friend's father, mother, and sister. The authorities get the two close friends a hotel room to stay in while the investigation gets under way. But they decide to go back to Canada rather than remain in the USA. The pair became the main suspects but how could investigators get to them? The Royal Canadian Mounted Police began monitoring Burns and Rafay and after a short time launched a Mr. Big operation. Illegal in the United States, this operation placed undercover officers in a position to make suspects believe they were dealing with criminals who were in a position to help them get out of their 'impending arrests'. With confessions from the two given to the investigators in Washington, the case is set. Did the two close friends murder the Rafay family for the insurance payout? Or was this sting operation only successful in getting them to lie in order to protect themselves?

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