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Hi, it's Chris Deren here, back for the second episode of the New Statement Podcasts Scottish Election Special.

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Now, let's begin.

In this episode, we'll be discussing the splits and rouse dividing the Yes campaign

and also how Scotland's artistic community, its musicians, novelists and poets

became so entangled in the push for independence.

If you do ask artists for their input, you will get slightly maverick kind of characters popping up

who won't want to fit into anyone's party.

And that's quite good. I like that. I think there should be a laugh along the way.

We accept that Scotland can detach from the union, what we don't understand is

how does it extricate itself from the welfare state, for example.

It's very clear that that case hasn't been built yet.

Ricky Ross and Darren McGarvey there, two musicians and activists who have been

reduitable campaigners in the independence movement, they'll be joining me later in the podcast.

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