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All right, so welcome to True Crime Daily, the podcast, and we're talking with our guest this week, Scott Michael.

Scott Michael's from the Daley Departed Tours and Museum in Los Angeles specializing in celebrity deaths and

Hollywood crime and Scott we went through on the on the main podcast how you got

started what you do but you've got a lot of artifacts in the

in your museum and you brought one in today and it's actually a case that we

covered on the website and you know a lot of times when I see

stuff you know artifacts of killers and things you know there's that ghoulishness of it, and I always want to put the victims first, but seeing

something as kind of benign as this is is interesting because you can get kind of into

the head of the person a little bit.

And what you brought in is you brought Michael Garjulo's

application and Garjulo is known as the Hollywood Ripper and he was the one most you know he's been in the news because he was

he had murdered a woman who had been seeing Ashton Kucher and that Ashton Kucher had to testify at his trial.

And what stands out to you?

Well, first of all, how did you get it?

Well, the former owner of the building was a friend of mine.

This is the place in Hollywood where she was,

oh no this is his place, she was murdered in a block away.

Yeah, basically in the downtown

downtown, not too far from what by the magic castle over there.

Right, yeah behind the church, the Methodist church.

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