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You got a, uh, you go and shoes on for this one?

Um, I guess, yeah.

I mean, I'm not accustomed to taking my shoes off for a show.

This is one of my ideas.

Uh-huh.

You know, like, we're sitting doing the show and, like, we're talking on the podcast.

Isn't that what podcasts are?

But then everything else is not being optimized, right?

Mm-hmm.

Every other part of us.

So what if we're all sitting crisscross applesauce.

I don't think I can get my body in that position, to be honest.

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