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Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Scoring Changes to the ABSITE: The Trainee Perspective on Impact and Ramifications

Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Medicine, Health & Fitness, Education, Science

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 April 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The American Board of Surgery In-Training Examination will officially be switching from reporting percentile scores by year level to percent of questions correct. What does this change mean for residents? Podcast hosts Dr. Ananya Anand, Dr. Joe L’Huillier, and Dr. Rebecca Moreci are joined by three fellow CoSEF members for this discussion: Dr. Gus Godley, Dr. Colleen McDermott, and Dr. Josh Roshal. 

Hosts:

–Dr. Ananya Anand, Stanford University, @AnanyaAnandMD, ananya_anand@stanford.edu

–Dr. Joseph L’Huillier, University at Buffalo, @JoeLHuillier101, josephlh@buffalo.edu

–Dr. Rebecca Moreci, Louisiana State University, @md_moreci, morecir@med.umich.edu

–COSEF: @surgedfellows

Special guests: 

-Dr. Gus Godley, University of Chicago, frederick.godley@uchicagomedicine.org, @GusGodley

-Dr. Colleen McDermott, University of Utah, colleen.mcdermott@hsc.utah.edu

-Dr. Josh Roshal, Brigham and Women’s Hospital, jaroshal@utmb.edu, @Joshua_Roshal

Learning Objectives: 

Listeners will:
 – Understand the changes to the ABSITE score reporting by the American Board of Surgery 

– Describe both positive impacts and limitations of this change from the resident perspective

– List possible ideas for further refinements to standardized exams in medicine  

References:
 -Yeo HL, Dolan PT, Mao J, Sosa JA. Association of Demographic and Program Factors With American Board of Surgery Qualifying and Certifying Examinations Pass Rates. JAMA Surg. Jan 1 2020;155(1):22-30. doi:10.1001/jamasurg.2019.4081 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31617872/

-Sathe TS, Wang JJ, Yap A, Zhao NW, O’Sullivan P, Alseidi A. Proposed Reforms to the American Board of Surgery In-Training Examination (ABSITE). https://www.ideasurg.pub/proposed-absite-reforms/

-Miller AT, Swain GW, Midmar M, Divino CM. How Important Are American Board of Surgery In-Training Examination Scores When Applying for Fellowships? J Surg Educ. 2010;67(3):149-151. doi:10.1016/j.jsurg.2010.02.007 
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20630424/

-Savoie KB, Kulaylat AN, Huntington JT, Kelley-Quon L, Gonzalez DO, Richards H, Besner G, Nwomeh BC, Fisher JG. The pediatric surgery match by the numbers: Defining the successful application. J Pediatr Surg. 2020;55(6):1053-1057. doi:10.1016/j.jpedsurg.2020.02.052 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32197826/

-Alnahhal KI, Lyden SP, Caputo FJ, Sorour AA, Rowe VL, Colglazier JJ, Smith BK, Shames ML, Kirksey L. The USMLE® STEP 1 Pass or Fail Era of the Vascular Surgery Residency Application Process: Implications for Structural Bias and Recommendations. Annals of Vascular Surgery. 2023;94:195-204. doi:10.1016/j.avsg.2023.04.018 
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37120072/

-Williams M, Kim EJ, Pappas K, Uwemedimo O, Marrast L, Pekmezaris R, Martinez J. The impact of United States Medical Licensing Exam (USMLE) step 1 cutoff scores on recruitment of underrepresented minorities in medicine: A retrospective cross‐sectional study. Health Sci Rep. 2020;3(2):e2161. doi:10.1002/hsr2.161 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32318628/

-Lucey CR, Saguil A. The Consequences of Structural Racism on MCAT Scores and Medical School Admissions: The Past Is Prologue. Academic Medicine. 2020;95(3):351. doi:10.1097/ACM.0000000000002939 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31425184/

-Natanson H, Svrluga S. The SAT is coming back at some colleges. It’s stressing everyone out. Washington Post. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/03/18/sat-test-policies-confuse-students/. Published March 19, 2024. Accessed April 5, 2024.

-de Virgilio C, Yaghoubian A, Kaji A, Collins JC, Deveney K, Dolich M, Easter D, Hines OJ, Katz S, Liu T, Mahmoud A, Melcher ML, Parks S, Reeves M, Salim A, Scherer L, Takanishi D, Waxman K.. Predicting Performance on the American Board of Surgery Qualifying and Certifying Examinations: A Multi-institutional Study. Archives of Surgery. 2010;145(9):852-856. doi:10.1001/archsurg.2010.177 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20855755/

-Weighted test content from the ABS: 
https://www.absurgery.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/GS-ITE.pdf

-USMLE program announces upcoming policy changes | USMLE. Accessed April 9, 2024. https://www.usmle.org/usmle-program-announces-upcoming-policy-changes
 
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0:00.0

Behind the surgery podcast, relevant and engaging content designed to help you dominate the day.

0:13.0

Thank you for turning in to Behind the Knife. This is Patrick George

0:25.5

off. This week we have two episodes that focus on AbSight, your favorite topic.

0:30.3

The recent transition away from a percentile-based reporting system has definitely stirred lots of discussion including the use of AbSite as a summative versus formative assessment tool

0:40.6

The importance of AbSite scores for fellowship applications, the optimal approach to

0:45.5

studying for AbSight, and the link between AbSight, EPA's, and the future of competency-based training. On Monday we heard from American Board of Surgery of you take a listen if you haven't already.

1:02.8

And today we welcome back the Collaboration for Surgical Education Fellows or KOSF to discuss their

1:07.5

take on the recent changes to the app site.

1:10.4

We hope you enjoy today's episode.

1:12.4

D dominate the day.

1:14.0

Hello everybody and welcome to the third behind the knife surgical education episode brought to you by the

1:20.0

Collaboration of surgical education fellows or Kossf. We hope you enjoyed our last episode discussing the salary of resident

1:26.2

physicians and we're excited to bring you more interesting content about surgical education today.

1:30.9

So I'm Joe Lulier, I'm a general surgery resident at the University at Buffalo.

1:35.0

I'm in my academic development time away from the hospital pursuing my Masters in Health Professions Education from the

1:40.1

MGH Institute for Health Professions Education.

1:42.8

I'm also a research fellow working on at E-Crip Grant from the New York State Department of Health

1:47.0

studying trauma outcomes, but my favorite title lately has been Dad to my twin one-year-olds.

1:52.4

Hey everyone, I'm Rebecca Maria. has been dad to my twin one-year-olds.

1:53.0

Hey everyone, I'm Rebecca Marisee.

1:55.0

I'm a general surgery resident at LSU in New Orleans,

1:59.0

currently in my second year of surgical education research

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