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Well, Bill, Newsweek Magazine is not exactly a conservative publication, so it's interesting

to see this article that they published by Stephen Meyer of the Discovery Institute.

Before we get to it, have you had much interaction with Stephen Meyer and his work?

Yes, I have. Stephen, I actually go back pretty long ways. When we were still living in Belgium,

he invited me to a conference at Queens College at Cambridge University

where the founders of the Intelligent Design Movement were collaborating with one

another, and it was at that movement that I met Philip Johnson, Met Steve, and got to hear about

his work and his collaboration with Bill Demsky. I think Michael Behe might have been there.

And over the years, then, I have been at conferences with Steve most recently at the Evangelical

Theological Philosophical Society meeting where he attended our reasonable faith dinner

and he and I were on a panel discussion together on the book Theistic Evolution,

and I've read some of his books like Signature in the Cell, so we are colleagues and friends.

Stephen begins this article, headlines lately have not been encouraging for the faithful.

A Gallup poll shows that the percentage of Americans who believe in God has fallen to 81 percent,

a drop of 10 percent over the last decade, and an all-time low. This accelerating trend is

especially pronounced among young adults, according to a Pew Research Center poll, 18 to 29-year-olds

are disproportionately represented among so-called NUNs, N-E-S. That's atheist agnostics and the

religiously unaffiliated. Pastors and other religious leaders have attributed this trend to

many factors. Young people being raised outside the church is one of them, and unfamiliarity

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