meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Short Wave

Science Is For Everyone. Until It's Not.

Short Wave

NPR

Daily News, Nature, Life Sciences, Astronomy, Science, News

4.76K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2020

⏱️ 14 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Brandon Taylor's story has a happy ending. Today he's a successful writer whose debut novel 'Real Life' received glowing reviews earlier this year. But his success only underscores what science lost when Brandon walked away from a graduate biochemistry program in 2016. He tells host Maddie Sofia why he left, and what he misses.

Read his essay in BuzzFeed, 'Working In Science Was A Brutal Education. That's Why I Left.'

Find and support your local public radio station at donate.npr.org/short.

Email the show at [email protected].

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Hey, real quick before the show, if you've been listening to shortwave these last few weeks,

0:04.4

you know we're trying to bring you updates on the coronavirus pandemic,

0:08.3

as well as episodes that have absolutely nothing to do with that.

0:12.8

It's a balance we're thinking about all the time. So, if you value a show that gives you science

0:19.2

news of all kinds, we could really use your help. If you can, go to donate.npr.org slash short

0:27.3

to find your local public radio station and donate. That link is in our episode notes. Any

0:33.1

amount helps. It's the best way to support what we do. You're listening to shortwave

0:40.9

from npr. Brandon Taylor was the kind of kid who kept a rock journal.

0:48.6

And I grew up on a farm and so I would keep very detailed notes about my grandpa's like chickens

0:56.0

that he was breeding. I mean, if this kid wasn't destined for career in science, I don't know who

1:02.0

is. Some people go to college and they're like, what is my major? I never wavered. The biggest change

1:09.8

in my life was deciding that I would instead of being a neurosurgeon, studied neurochemistry.

1:14.4

Like that was like the big, big change in my life. I know I walked on the wild side there. And so,

1:21.9

like for me, my entire life, I thought I was going to be a scientist.

1:26.7

But today, Brandon is not a scientist. He's a writer. His debut novel, Real Life, came out this year.

1:34.2

And it was a big hit. Got written up in the New York Times, O magazine. So it's safe to say,

1:40.0

things are going well for him. But Brandon says walking away from science was like walking away

1:47.2

from religion. Science is this incredible, like amazing way of knowing the world and knowing

1:54.4

the universe and knowing meaning. And in some ways, it's akin to faith in that way. And it's also

2:02.0

incredibly painful and fraught and difficult. And so it is also akin to faith in that way.

2:08.5

Leaving science was for me. Like it was akin to burning down my life and trying to find a new

2:14.9

world view because that is the thing that I built my entire life around. I didn't experience a

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from NPR, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of NPR and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.