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🗓️ 25 August 2025
⏱️ 144 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Huberman Lab podcast, where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life. |
| 0:08.8 | I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. |
| 0:15.4 | My guest today is Dr. David Desteno. Dr. David Desteno is a professor of psychology at Northeastern University |
| 0:21.6 | and an expert on the science of morality, religion, and the health benefits of belief in God and religion. |
| 0:27.6 | Many people, perhaps most people actually, view science and religion as mutually exclusive. |
| 0:33.6 | Today, Dr. Desteno explains why that view is actually incorrect, and he also shares the data showing that religion and prayer have tremendous mental and physical benefits. |
| 0:42.3 | We discuss the brain mechanisms that often lead people to embrace faith in God and religion. |
| 0:47.3 | And we attempt to tackle some of the big questions that often come up around science and religion. |
| 0:51.3 | For instance, can the existence of God actually be proven? Can |
| 0:54.9 | it be disproven? If not, how should we think about miracles, the origin of life, and the afterlife? |
| 1:00.6 | So small questions like that. We also discuss where the line between rituals and suspicions |
| 1:05.4 | resides and what distinguishes religions from cults. He also shares that despite the fact |
| 1:10.3 | that more than a 100 new religion surface every |
| 1:12.4 | year, that was surprising to me, very few are able to last. |
| 1:16.5 | That was not surprising. |
| 1:18.0 | He also shares amazing data on when and how people lie for personal gain and the simple |
| 1:22.4 | practices that convert liars into truth tellers and that make people more empathic overall. |
| 1:28.1 | To be clear, Dr. Desteno is not promoting religion. |
| 1:30.7 | He's a scientist and his approach is to study |
| 1:32.8 | in an unbiased way how belief in God |
| 1:35.2 | and religious practices can benefit individuals and groups. |
| 1:38.3 | Thanks to him, it's a remarkable conversation |
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