School Segregation in 2018 with Nikole Hannah-Jones

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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🗓️ 31 July 2018

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Why are American schools resegregating? Over 60 years since the Brown v. Board of Education ruling forced schools to integrate, the nation is witnessing schools become increasingly segregated. So how did we get to this point? Nikole Hannah-Jones has firsthand knowledge of the system. Beginning in second grade, she was bussed to a wealthy, majority white school as part of a desegregation initiative in her home town. Now, she’s an award-winning investigative reporter writing for The New York Times magazine, doing extensive work on school segregation. In this episode Nikole Hannah-Jones explains why we continue to see segregation in the classroom and how, if at all, the education system can truly desegregate. Read more at NBCNews.com/WhyIsThisHappening

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0:00.0	I mean, that's what we have today.
0:01.4	We've got segregated schools.
0:02.9	Absolutely.
0:03.7	And one of the things that's crazy to me is that everyone just accepts it.
0:10.3	Like, I mean, people will talk about education all the time.
0:14.9	And the entire context for conversation about education is literally separate but equal.
0:19.9	Yes.
0:20.9	And we're fine with that.
0:23.2	We have been for a long time.
0:24.8	Hello, and welcome to Why is this happening?
0:29.8	Me, your host.
0:31.2	Chris Hays.
0:35.0	So if you pay any attention whatsoever to education, to education policy, to talks about
0:42.6	education, you will hear this phrase all the time, which is called the Achievement Gap.
0:50.3	The Achievement Gap is the central problem at the core of modern education, debate and
0:58.6	policy.
0:59.6	And it's the problem that all the conversation is meant to solve.
1:02.7	And what is the Achievement Gap?
1:03.7	The Achievement Gap is that white children in America and black children have a gap
1:10.8	between what their test scores and their achievement are.
1:13.5	And sometimes that gap, depending on how the data is run, even controlling for things
1:17.5	like socioeconomic status or income, you see this persistent gap between white children
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