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EU Confidential

Scholz on the brink, Rubio in the wings: Europe faces the new Trump era

EU Confidential

POLITICO

Politics, News Commentary, News

4.4 • 175 Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2024

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

While Donald Trump is filling out his top team, the EU faces a leadership vacuum. Thank Germany, where Chancellor Olaf Scholz has been on the phone with Vladimir Putin and faces gloomy prospects in likely snap elections. EU Confidential host Sarah Wheaton is joined by Gordon Repinski, POLITICO’s executive editor for Germany and host of the Berlin Playbook podcast, and Liana Fix, Europe fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, to unpack how domestic chaos in Berlin translates to transatlantic chaos for the rest of the bloc. Then, Sarah checks in with Eric Bazail-Eimil, POLITICO.com’s expert on U.S. foreign policy, to learn more about Marco Rubio, Trump’s surprisingly conventional pick to serve as Washington’s top envoy. Are the sighs of relief in Brussels justified?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This week marks 1,000 days since Russia unleashed its full-scale war on Ukraine.

0:10.0

Only three days into the invasion,

0:14.0

German Chancellor Olaf Schultz stood in the Bundestag

0:18.0

and delivered his famous Seitenvenda speech, a promise of support for Ukraine,

0:25.3

condemnation of Moscow, and a vision of a bold new era for Germany's leadership and foreign policy.

0:35.1

Fast forward 997 days, and that turning point looks more like a dead end, especially for Schultz himself.

0:48.4

With his government in collapse and snap elections looming early next year, Schultz is scrambling to stay relevant,

0:54.9

both at home and abroad, but his efforts are falling flat. The timing couldn't be worse for Europe.

1:01.8

Donald Trump is preparing to return to the White House, threatening to abandon Ukraine and take

1:06.6

another swing at NATO. In moments like these, Europe would usually look to Berlin for leadership,

1:13.3

but not under Schultz. Instead, the chancellor has been consumed by crises at home and has largely

1:19.5

ignored the EU's growing leadership vacuum. His phone call to Vladimir Putin to talk about Ukraine,

1:26.3

while refusing to send long-range tourist missiles

1:28.3

to Kiev, showed that he's marching to a different beat than other top allies.

1:33.9

So what's next for Germany? Will new leaders be able to get past the country's domestic squabbling

1:39.0

to re-engage with the world? And how will Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin respond to the void left by Berlin?

1:48.8

I'm Sarah Wheaton, host of EU Confidential. Later in the episode, we'll explore what Marco Rubio,

1:55.5

Trump's hawkish, but relatively conventional pick for Secretary of State could mean for Europe.

2:02.0

But first, let's dig into Germany's political crisis.

2:06.5

Joining us from Berlin is my colleague Gordon Rapinski, Politico's executive editor for Germany,

2:11.4

and hosted the Berlin Playbook podcast.

2:13.9

He's fresh from covering Schultz at the G20 Summit.

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