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The Allender Center Podcast

Scapegoating, Part Two

The Allender Center Podcast

The Allender Center

Psychology, Religion & Spirituality, Mental Health, Christianity, Trauma, Health & Fitness, Theology

4.6628 Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2019

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Dan Allender continues our series on scapegoating by reflecting on the experience of being chosen to bear the violence and chaos of an entire system.

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You're listening to the Allender Center podcast with Dr. Dan Allender.

0:07.2

This week, Dan continues our series on scapegoating by reflecting on the experience of being

0:12.9

chosen to bear the violence and chaos of an entire system.

0:17.1

By reflecting on the categories of people who are often turned into scapegoats, we may begin to engage these age-old dynamics in new ways.

0:35.6

We scapegoat and we are scapegoated and where we left off in our last podcast is,

0:43.3

this is really personal and it needs to be taken into account systemically,

0:49.3

familiarly, and certainly personally and individually.

0:53.7

What I'm getting at is that we who struggle with envy, we who are the objects of other

1:02.0

people's envy, often need this intersection of relief and revenge.

1:08.0

We need something to quell the tumult, the green bile of envy. And that desire for

1:17.9

what another has that leaves us not only empty and alone feeling something of the force and the

1:24.9

weight of injustice, we want something to take away

1:30.0

that more than mere anger, that, that, um, dis-ease within us. But we also want the one who

1:40.4

becomes our scapegoat to pay. That's why just sending off into the wilderness

1:49.2

isn't enough. We want to know to some degree that being sent in the wilderness, as you find

1:56.3

in Leviticus 16 number of passages, that that's more than just abandonment and sending on.

2:04.3

It's also the sense that we send you out into the wilderness to be devoured and to be destroyed.

2:11.2

You become the relief of our need for revenge.

2:16.5

So at that level, it's the intersection of, I need you. I need you.

2:21.4

So every scapegoat has that element of, I need you. Simultaneously, I need you to suffer my heartache

2:29.0

and my loss and my shame. So that question remains. How do we know that we're being scapegoated? And simply

2:38.6

looking through the raft of people I've been privileged to work with, not only from the standpoint

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