meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Lives Less Ordinary

Scams and poetry in Moscow’s underbelly

Lives Less Ordinary

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.6814 Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Eric Ngalle is now a poet and academic in the Welsh capital of Cardiff, but it's his experiences as a people-trafficked teenager that inspire much of his work. When he was 17, he found himself broke and alone in Moscow, freezing cold and unable to speak a word of Russian. To survive, he relied on charity, girlfriends, and a brief stripping career. None of this was enough to buy him a ticket home to Cameroon, so he got involved in a high-risk scam, which targeted some very dangerous people.

If you’ve been affected by anything you heard in this interview, support is available through the BBC Action Line website or via Befrienders Worldwide.

Presenter: Asya Fouks Producer: Harry Graham

Get in touch: WhatsApp +44 330 678 2707

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

You are about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about what goes into making one.

0:06.5

I'm Sadata Sese, an assistant commissioner of podcasts for BBC Sounds.

0:11.1

I pull a lot of levers to support a diverse range of podcasts on all sorts of subjects,

0:16.0

relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life.

0:22.4

So one day I'll be helping host develop their ideas, the next fact-checking, a feature,

0:28.3

and the next looking at how a podcast connects with its audience, and maybe that's you.

0:33.6

So if you like this podcast, check out some others on BBC Sounds.

0:39.9

The Global Story is the podcast helping you make sense of the news.

0:45.1

Join me, Katia Adler, every weekday as I take a closer look at the stories making the headlines,

0:50.5

with insights from the BBC's Global Network of Experts.

0:54.4

Search for The Global Story, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

1:02.5

I had not prepared myself for the cold that I felt when I reached Sheremetable Airport.

1:09.1

That's the airport in Moscow, one of the airports?

1:11.3

Yes, it was, my lips couldn't move.

1:14.2

I was numb, you know.

1:16.1

And to make matters worse, I was wearing this kind of fluffy jacket, a Cameroonian summer jacket.

1:23.0

But in Russia, it felt like I was, literally I was working in ice.

1:28.3

Eric Nagali Charles was 17 when he arrived in Moscow, broke, confused, and alone.

1:35.1

Eric had been trafficked from his home in Cameroon, and he really didn't want to be in Russia.

1:40.1

But his experiences there would form him.

1:42.7

The bad, ugly, strange and miraculous,

1:46.0

it would all eventually set him on a course

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from BBC, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of BBC and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.