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Scam Inc 1: Pigs in a barrel

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The Economist

News & Politics, News

4.44.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

You wouldn’t fall for a scam—would you?


A small town in Kansas is left reeling after one of its best and brightest gets sucked in.


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0:00.0

Today on the weekend intelligence, we're bringing you the first half of a new eight-part podcast series, Scam Inc.

0:13.2

I'm Rosie Bloor, co-host of the intelligence, and I was completely gripped from the moment my colleague, Su Lin Wong, first told me about this podcast.

0:22.4

This is the biggest story you've never heard of. Su Lin follows a trail around the world, taking us deep into

0:29.1

the heart of the ingenious and sophisticated networks working so hard to rip us off. She follows the

0:35.4

money, even as it appears to scatter like feathers, out of our bank

0:39.5

accounts, laundered and back, full circle onto the streets of our cities. And most of all,

0:45.9

she digs into the heart of a new, developing, terrifying trade in human emotions.

0:53.1

You can find the whole series by searching Scam Inc wherever you get your podcasts.

1:03.3

In the summer of 2023, there was a drought in Kansas.

1:08.3

But Jim Tucker's family had weathered worse.

1:12.0

Jim's great-grandfather had first settled here as a homesteader,

1:15.6

not long before the Dust Bowl era in the 1930s.

1:19.4

A tall, affable man, Jim still farms the family plot today.

1:25.5

It's home, and he loves it. You know, we're in the southwest corner, Kansas,

1:30.3

very rural area, and you can see for miles in every direction. Miles out across fields of wheat,

1:39.9

corn, and sorghum, and up into a night sky unspoiled by city lights.

1:47.4

Stars are just fascinating here, and often, you know, on a clear night, you can see planes

1:53.3

twinkling across the skyline in different directions.

1:56.6

That's comforting to be here in the middle of nowhere.

1:59.0

You feel safe.

1:59.7

You feel isolated from the rest of the world.

2:01.9

And so when there's major conflict, you know, with wars or something,

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