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🗓️ 25 June 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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If you’ve ever felt like you’re living in the in-between, trying to lead with purpose while questioning your pace, this conversation is for you. Sarah Jakes Roberts sits down with global leader and powerhouse Jo Saxton to unpack what freedom really means when life feels uncertain, leadership gets heavy, and identity feels up for grabs. From childhood wounds to uncharted seasons, from calling to capacity, these two women keep it real about how faith, rest, and community are keys to staying grounded and free. Jo shares her personal story of shedding old beliefs and letting God rewrite her narrative, piece by piece, mirror by mirror. Together, they talk about prophetic leadership, discernment, and how even your “I don’t know” can be holy. It’s not too late, sis. Your freedom is still available. And this episode? Whew. It’ll meet you right where you are.
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0:00.0 | Being a spirit-led parent is a choice, and it is one that I have to make every single day. |
0:05.0 | Literally, sometimes my children will be talking to me, and I have to invite the Holy Spirit to just like tag in. |
0:10.0 | I want to give them Jesus and not me. |
0:15.0 | When I'm coaching leaders, I often say, pray for the wild card. |
0:17.0 | The thing you didn't see coming, that's the one you need right now. |
0:20.0 | The thing that causes you to depend on him again. |
0:22.0 | So in this moment when it's uncharted waters, think of rest, think of the cry, and take a |
0:26.9 | moment to hear what the uncharted response needs to be. |
0:30.9 | What's up? |
0:31.5 | What's up? |
0:32.6 | Okay. |
0:34.0 | Let me tell you about the struggle. |
0:35.7 | I recorded the first part of this podcast eight minutes, and the mic wasn't on at all. So whatever, God must have wanted me to just run this thing again. And so how are you? What's going on in your world? I can tell you right now. I just got back from vacation and we did absolutely nothing. If you are one of those people who go on vacation and you love to |
0:56.1 | have an itinerary and you want to plan breakfast and activities and lunch and activities and parties and |
1:02.9 | all of the things, let me tell you something. You would hate me on vacation. I don't want to do nothing. |
1:07.0 | I barely want my departure flight to be scheduled. I kind of want it to just be ready |
1:12.1 | when I'm ready to go. I want to do absolutely nothing. And my husband and I have this same vacation |
1:17.4 | mentality. So we did nothing on a grand scale. And it was so restorative, so refreshing. And the |
1:23.0 | moment we touched down back home, I knew for sure that the devil is trying to take everything that we just |
1:28.9 | got on vacation because it feels like we have been slammed ever since. But it is giving me an |
1:33.4 | opportunity to reassess, reprioritize my life because I don't want to live in such a way that I'm |
1:38.6 | vacating, coming back, and being overwhelmed again. But how can I reimagine my life in a way that allows me to have |
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