From an infantry perspective, if I start digging a foxhole,

I'm always improving my foxhole to make it a better fighting position.

And we do that for the individual.

So then instead of like, oh no, something bad is happening,

they're always up and out looking for what could be happening

and trying to prevent it before it does.

How can I help? How can I be useful in ending needless suffering?

Do not be afraid of work that has no end.

We have to organize a social movement. We have an opportunity to lead by example,

versus just talking, hot air.

I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow,

eventually it could change.

The people are the ones that can make the change. Welcome to Change Agents, an Ironclad original presented by Montana Knife Company.

My name is Jesse. I'm a producer on the show. Andy is actually unavailable this week to record the intro and outros, but he did recently record an incredible interview with Tim Kennedy.

Tim Kennedy is a green beret. He's an MMA fighter. He's also an entrepreneur and a best-selling author.

He's the co-founder of the organization Save Our Allies, which is dedicated to helping Americans and allies in hostile areas like Gaza, Israel, and Afghanistan escape conflict zones. He's also the founder of

Sheep Dog Response. Now, Sheep Dog Response is a group that helps people train and prepare for

some of the most extreme and violent situations you can possibly face. And that's the focus of Andy's

conversation today with Tim about how people can be better prepared when faced with terrible

situations, but also come to the aid of others that need help.

Here's Andy's recent conversation with Tim.

So when did you found sheepdog response?

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