This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski, Stacey Cole, and Todd Michaels.

Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of today's show host, Savannah Guthrie, was taken from her

Tucson home against her will. Investigators have confirmed forced entry DNA evidence belonging to

Nancy and purported ransom notes demanding Bitcoin sent to multiple media outlets. The chaos storm

is large right now. People saying this, people saying that, people saying this, people backing up

what they said, people backing away from what they've said.

It's the fog of war, as are so many of these cases. The FBI is involved. No suspects have been

identified to understand what a case like this looks like when it finally lands in the courtroom from both

the prosecution and the defense side,

we're joined by attorney Eric Fattis.

This is a case where I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around where to even begin talking about on it

because it is, it's just so breaking and so moving and it's not, I don't want to just do,

here's the latest, here's the breaking, but what's the angle not i don't want to just do here's the latest here's the breaking

but what's the angle how is this going to play out long term so i want to i want to talk about

some of the aspects of it that have begun to flow in we're going to start with talking about

the ransom notes that have come in sent to media. We don't know if these things are legitimate,

and we're going to take it from that angle of not knowing. TMZ, local Tucson stations,

say they've received these ransoms notes. It's not an unusual move. It's a little unusual

that they're getting them four days into this.

Eric, what does a choice tell you about the legal exposure a person is putting themselves into by sending out ransom notes whether they actually have her or not? This could be a rather

precocious place to put oneself if it's just for attention.

Oh, 100%. I mean, you know, a law enforcement has to assess the authenticity of these purported

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