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Savage Lovecast

Savage Love Episode 552

Savage Lovecast

Dan Savage

Society & Culture, Relationships, Health & Fitness, Sexuality

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2017

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

A straight male weight-lifter likes to shave his chest and pits. His friends are giving him grief about it. How can this sensitive strongman get over the peer pressure and revel in his smooth, lovely body? A gay man's foster son has had a rough life. And now he realizes they are both on Grindr. Awkward? On the Magnum, Dan chats with Nathaniel Frank, author of Awakening: How Gays and Lesbians Brought Marriage Equality to America.  And, a woman's sister used to be in an abusive relationship, which she kept hidden. Now she's got a new guy, and guess what? He's a creep! Should the caller speak up? 206-302-2064 Today’s Lovecast is brought to you by MeUndies.com: High quality, super-comfortable, good looking undies. Get 20% off your first order when you go to . Today’s episode is also brought to you by Blue Apron. the delivery service that sends you fresh ingredients and incredible recipes so you can make fabulous meals at home. Check out this week’s menu and get your first 3 meals free by going to . This episode of the Savage Lovecast is brought to you by : luxury, affordable fair trade certified sheets. Get $50 off a set of sheets plus free shipping by going to  and enter Savage.

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0:00.0

You're listening to the micro version of the Savage Lovecast, www.com.

0:06.6

If you're stuck in a relationship quandary, or if you're looking for sexual harmony,

0:16.1

while there's nothing you can't ask on the savage luckass.

0:23.6

Whenever someone on television or elsewhere makes an overly broad generalization about Islamic cultures, societies, nations like, say, Saudi Arabia, the nation Donald Trump visited over the weekend, a nation where women are enslaved,

0:39.2

gays are beheaded, and petty crime is punished with amputations, a nation that has used its

0:44.4

oil wealth to push its murderously conservative brand of Islam all over the world. Whenever

0:49.4

someone does that makes a kind of broad generalization about Islam. Someone else, a good lefty, usually,

0:55.3

will immediately point to Indonesia, the most populous Muslim nation on earth and an officially

0:59.9

secular state as proof that the Muslim world, 1.6 billion people, is vast and not a monolith. And

1:08.2

the Muslim world, you know what? It is vast. And it isn't a monolith. And there Muslim world, you know what? It is vast and it isn't a monolith. And there are

1:12.4

millions and millions of liberal and progressive Muslims out there, devout, lapsed, and X,

1:17.7

who support the separation of church and state, the rights of women, the right to free speech,

1:21.9

including blasphemous speech, which is, of course, a highly subjective fucking judgment call, so best leave sorting

1:28.5

that blasphemy shit out to a higher and most likely imaginary power.

1:33.1

But it looks like we're going to have to stop citing Indonesia as the counter example to

1:37.2

Saudi Arabia.

1:38.3

Because in March, two gay men, a 23-year-old and his 20-year-old boyfriend, were arrested

1:43.7

in Indonesia after their neighbors who had been spying on them for weeks or months burst into their apartment.

1:51.0

Neighborhood vigilantes suspected them of being gay, reported the Guardian, and set out to catch them having sex.

1:57.1

Mobile phone footage that circulated online and forms part of the evidence against the men,

2:02.5

shows them naked and visibly distressed, as one apparently calls for help on his cell phone.

2:07.6

The second man is repeatedly pushed by another man who is preventing the couple from leaving the room.

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