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Savage Lovecast

Savage Love Episode 317

Savage Lovecast

Dan Savage

Society & Culture, Relationships, Health & Fitness, Sexuality

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2012

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

A man receives a mysterious image of a woman's pregnant belly, accompanied by a simple message telling him he's the father. Does he have the right to ask for proof? A conversation with Jillian Keenan, whose article in the New York Times explores her obsession with spankings and how she learned to "come out" about her kink. And an update from the newly out gay kid whose family demanded he go back in the closet AND come home for the holidays. Spoiler alert: He did neither. We love holidays! But holidays can be hard! Try to have a good one. 206-201-2720 This episode is brought to you by Audible. Download a free audio book of your choice today at   Today's episode is brought to you by . Get 50 percent off almost any item when you enter "Savage" at checkout.   Look! It's Ms. Keenan's article:

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0:00.0

You're listening to a Stranger podcast, www.com.

0:05.0

If you're stuck in a relationship quandary, or if you're looking for sexual harmony,

0:13.0

while there's nothing you can last on Savage Mubcast.

0:24.9

Here in America, where we are playing the Oppression Olympics, we have a new thing where everybody gets to have their own, I call it, Letter of the Alphabet, hyphen word word.

0:35.8

The N word, obviously, that's the legit one, totally legit.

0:39.3

Some places you will see people using the T word when they mean trans with an N.

0:43.7

Y at the end, which you're not allowed to say anymore.

0:46.3

Or the R word now for retard or retarder.

0:50.6

Or retardage not allowed to use anymore.

0:52.2

Please use leotard and leotarded in its place.

0:55.0

And the F word is being popularized by some because you're not unless they faggot anymore, unless you're a faggot. And even then you're going to get into trouble for being faggot. But we had a new one this week. Apparently, I didn't get the memo for this either, but apparently, Twink, which is gay slang for young, relatively smooth, hairless, not a lot of facial hair, skinny boys, young guys, young gay guys.

1:19.3

And when gay men say boys, they mean guys who are like 18 to 24, 25.

1:23.8

They don't mean children.

1:27.2

Andy Cullen, who's the head of Bravo, the host of Watch What Happens Live, the mastermind behind the real housewives of everywhere on earth, described, said he was at the Today Show and walked into a room and there was one direction, which is a boy band from the UK that are very popular.

1:44.3

And he said, oh, this bunch of Twinks.

1:46.3

And he was forced to apologize after a big outcry on Twitter and here and there and everywhere.

1:52.2

Because people said that Twink is – here, I'll read from the news story.

1:59.0

The term Twinks is said to be slang for young gay men and is deemed to be offensive and derogatory.

2:07.3

Excuse me, but what?

2:10.1

No, unless we now have the T word for twink.

2:14.6

Because I'm actually really staggered by this. Most people I know who are Twinks who are

2:20.8

passing through Twinkdom or had a twink phase of their life because Twink ain't forever. There's a lot of

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