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The Michael Berry Show.

I came across something I found to be very interesting by a fellow I did not know of before by the name of Dr. Joe Rigney.

And he's a fellow of theology at New St. Andrews College and a pastor at Christchurch in Moscow, Idaho.

He's the author of eight books.

But what caught my attention is a book that he's published this year called The Sin

of Empathy.

And I saw that, and I gave it a great deal of thought because it is, you've heard my theory

on the naive neighbor that our greatest

challenge is not the people who want to destroy our society there have always been those

people our challenge is the naive neighbor who will allow the Trojan horse inside

their home until it's too late to defend it. He's also written leadership and emotional

sabotage and more eight Eight books, I believe,

in total. And it seemed like a great person to have on our show. You know, I don't do very many

guests, but when someone is offering, proffering a theory or a position or an experience that I think

is interesting to me, I share it with you.

So Joe Rigney, welcome to the program.

Hey, thanks for having me.

So let's talk about the sin of empathy. You caught my attention.

I have a naive neighbor theory that I posit often, and I think there probably at least some overlap in that Venn diagram.

Yeah, I think that's probably right.

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