Welcome to the show today guys, another amazing conversation in time with one of the guest speakers here at Love Life Washington, which I've had the privilege of speaking out and you know the story. We've been rolling out these different guests with Zeke Bambolo and Eric Mataxis, Pastor Alec Rollins, Dr. Anthony Leventino, and now, of course, the one, the only, Pastor John, I'm a chupu. And we're going to get into a lot of fun things, but, of course, he's been on the show before. In fact, if you remember, John and I did a brutal takedown,

of Emmanuel Acho and Chelsea Smith and these other synchrotists, cheap, grace, cowards would be the softest way to put it. And actually, that podcast episode that John and I did together got a lot of downloads on podcast, audio platforms. I think people were itching for clarity on that. So, so he's back here at the Love Life Washington Conference at Cedar Park Church in both of Washington. And we're just going to dialogue a little bit about his new book, published with Salem Books, Erased, Beautiful,

phenomenal, Ezekiel kind of blowing the trumpet book on these false demonic Marxist ideologies. So buckle up. I think you'll enjoy the conversation. I'm Seth Gruber, and this is Unaborted.

Brother John. Good to see you again, Mr. Gruber. Good to be with you, man. Glad to be here. So a lot of people don't know this about you. So I want to say it.

You, you left a youth pastor job, essentially, pouring into the lives of young people, pouring into the flock in the congregation. You're a gifted preacher. You're a gifted teacher. You've, you're a dad, you're a husband. You've got young kids, but you had a burning in your heart to enter the public arena of the culture war. Not that you weren't doing godly important work with my goodness. This is discipleship. This is a great commission. But come on. We can't always wait downstream to pick up

a human heartache that we helped create by not entering that public arena. And so I just want people to know that like John stepped into that public arena. And he's using his giftings as a communicator and as an activator in this season. And it's just been incredible, brother, to, to, to watch how quickly God has blown you into the most biggest stages and the most kind of culture shaking, pushing the end of the lobe kind of events to activate people and get

people engaged in God's just gifted you, brother, with such a powerful prophetic voice. You have one of those voices where if I said the same sentence, people would be like, that's kind of cool. And then you would say the same sentence and they'd be like, and I'm like, it's not fair. You're a precious brother and going to be with you again.

Because it's a blessing, Seth, to be able to dialogue with you. I am still actively serving as a youth pastor at Upper Room, Church of God in Christ. So if you're from Upper Room and you hear this, I am still employed.

All right. However, my mistake. The reason I said that was John is so busy speaking around the country right now that I assume there's no way you could manage both. Hey, so I actually, I'm doing it by the grace of God.

You just showed how much greater you are than you were in my mind.

You're too kind, man. But just it's a blessing.

Children are near and dear to the heart of God. You know, there was a time where in the New Testament where Jesus went to the temple.

Right. He braided a whip turned over tables. It was angry because they made the house of God out of a den of thieves.

I believe if Christ were to return today, he probably wouldn't go flip tables at a local church. He would probably go to a school board meeting or to a local abortion clinic.

Because that's where children are being destroyed and harmed the most. You know, the Bible says in Luke 17 and 2 is better for a man to be thrown into the sea with a meal stone around his neck.

Denver us to harm a child. And you know, you know the story that from the beginning of time the enemy has sought to destroy babies and to destroy life.

He did it through Pharaoh, did it through Herod. And since 1973, 64 million babies in counting have been killed.

And if he can't kill a child in the womb, he'll do it in the public school system in the classroom.

And even some of our Christian schools have gone woke. They've given up the Bible. I mean, I don't know most what's up with people. Yeah, you're right.

Not just something.

Yes. Yeah. Most. And it's a sad shame. I don't know why people get upset about this book right here. I don't know. You know what I mean? This Bible, I've owned this Bible probably about 15 years.

And man, I have pages. Look at this man. Look at this. This is this is our first Corinthians. But it's all. I mean, my goodness. But at the end of the day.

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