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My name is Brad O'Nishi, Associate Professor of Religious Studies at Skidmore College. And I am joined today by a journalist whose work I just completely respect and every time she has a new piece out I can't wait to read it.

So Sarah Posner is joining us.

She's been on our show before as part of the Orange Wave series and

Sarah is a reporting fellow with type investigations.

Her work has appeared everywhere, Rolling Stone, Vice, the Nation, Mother Jones, the New Republic,

Puff Post, and other places.

She's also the author of unholy why white evangelicals

worship at the altar of Donald Trump. We featured that that text in our

orange wave series this summer. It is a incredible incredible investigation into the alliance between the 45th

president and White Evangelicals so Sarah it is great to have you back thanks for

joining me.

Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me, Brad.

We are a couple weeks out from the election, and I wanted to talk to you today about authoritarianism.

And I think maybe for obvious reasons and I wanted to talk about the

particularly the allure of a strong man leader and why religious conservatives are often the biggest supporters of strong man

leaders or autocrats. You know, we've now lived through an election week that resulted in

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