Sandra Maria Van Opstal - 40 Days on Being an 8
The Enneagram Journey
Suzanne Stabile
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🗓️ 27 January 2022
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
"Fósforito! The explosion happened so quickly there was no stopping it. My mother called me 'tiny match' when she would see this fire exploding from me." This is how Latina pastor, activist, and worship leader, Sandra Maria Van Opstal, describes her experience as an Eight. There came a point in her life when she saw how her fiery explosions were undermining her leadership. A wise spiritual director helped her discover how the Enneagram could reveal more about both her gifts and her weaknesses. Sandra offers insight from her ethnic journey alongside Enneagram wisdom.
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Today's Intro:
1. From Frozen (2013)
2. Christine Min from The Enneagram Journey (August 2020)
3. Rogue from X-Men The Last Stand (2006)
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| 0:00.0 | Please sweet on the any gram journey. |
| 0:04.1 | The gloves will help. See? Can she, lit? |
| 0:07.9 | Don't feel it. Don't let it show. |
| 0:12.6 | And I guess the teacher had written all these things of how how lovely of a kid I was and how |
| 0:17.7 | much she enjoyed having in her class and she wrote like, and you know, Christina so spunky and |
| 0:22.4 | it's just been a pleasure having her in her class, et cetera, et cetera. But every time I got in |
| 0:27.6 | trouble after that, from my mom, she would always say, even Mrs. Muccai thought you were so spunky. |
| 0:36.1 | And I always thought as spunky as being like a bad word. It's like a little bitchy kid. And |
| 0:43.6 | anytime I spoke up, anytime I was kind of defending myself or anytime I asked questions that |
| 0:52.7 | were not welcome, it would always come back to even Mrs. Muccai thought you were so spunky. |
| 0:57.5 | And obviously it broke my heart because this one person who I thought saw me and loved me and thought |
| 1:02.8 | I was awesome was used as a tool to sort of suggest that being that way was not appreciated or like |
| 1:11.8 | you don't know what it's like to be afraid of your powers. Be afraid to get close to anybody. |
| 1:16.7 | Yeah, I do. |
| 1:18.1 | I want to be able to touch people Logan. I hug a handshake. I kiss. |
| 1:30.0 | Welcome everyone to the Anygram Journey podcast with Suzanne Stabil with Anygram Godmother. |
| 1:36.4 | Today's guest is Anygram 8 Sandra Maria Van Oxtool. A second generation Latina pastor, |
| 1:43.7 | activist, author and a powerful leading voice on the intersection of faith and justice. |
| 1:49.1 | And if you didn't already know, author of 40 days on being an 8. This leaves only one more |
| 1:55.0 | Anygram daily reflections author used yet to be on the program. So I bet you'll hear from her in |
| 2:00.8 | the next episode. Before we get to our conversation today, the holidays are over. The New Year is in |
| 2:07.6 | full swing. I think it was Larry David in Curb your enthusiasm who said you can't say happy New |
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