Sandra Maria Van Opstal - 40 Days on Being an 8
The Enneagram Journey
Suzanne Stabile
4.8 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 27 January 2022
⏱️ 55 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Please sweet on the any gram journey. |
| 0:04.1 | The gloves will help. See? Can she, lit? |
| 0:07.9 | Don't feel it. Don't let it show. |
| 0:12.6 | And I guess the teacher had written all these things of how how lovely of a kid I was and how |
| 0:17.7 | much she enjoyed having in her class and she wrote like, and you know, Christina so spunky and |
| 0:22.4 | it's just been a pleasure having her in her class, et cetera, et cetera. But every time I got in |
| 0:27.6 | trouble after that, from my mom, she would always say, even Mrs. Muccai thought you were so spunky. |
| 0:36.1 | And I always thought as spunky as being like a bad word. It's like a little bitchy kid. And |
| 0:43.6 | anytime I spoke up, anytime I was kind of defending myself or anytime I asked questions that |
| 0:52.7 | were not welcome, it would always come back to even Mrs. Muccai thought you were so spunky. |
| 0:57.5 | And obviously it broke my heart because this one person who I thought saw me and loved me and thought |
| 1:02.8 | I was awesome was used as a tool to sort of suggest that being that way was not appreciated or like |
| 1:11.8 | you don't know what it's like to be afraid of your powers. Be afraid to get close to anybody. |
| 1:16.7 | Yeah, I do. |
| 1:18.1 | I want to be able to touch people Logan. I hug a handshake. I kiss. |
| 1:30.0 | Welcome everyone to the Anygram Journey podcast with Suzanne Stabil with Anygram Godmother. |
| 1:36.4 | Today's guest is Anygram 8 Sandra Maria Van Oxtool. A second generation Latina pastor, |
| 1:43.7 | activist, author and a powerful leading voice on the intersection of faith and justice. |
| 1:49.1 | And if you didn't already know, author of 40 days on being an 8. This leaves only one more |
| 1:55.0 | Anygram daily reflections author used yet to be on the program. So I bet you'll hear from her in |
| 2:00.8 | the next episode. Before we get to our conversation today, the holidays are over. The New Year is in |
| 2:07.6 | full swing. I think it was Larry David in Curb your enthusiasm who said you can't say happy New |
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