Samuel Bowles | The Origins of Economic Man and the Moral Economy
Hidden Forces
Demetri Kofinas
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 21 August 2017
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
In Episode 18 of Hidden Forces, host Demetri Kofinas speaks with Samuel Bowles, about economic man and the moral economy, exploring some of the latest insights from the field of behavioral economics with insights about how incentives and prices convey information and shape perceptions of value in the economy. Dr. Bowles is a Research Professor at the Santa Fe Institute, where he heads the Behavioral Sciences Program. His studies on cultural and genetic evolution have challenged the conventional economic assumptions of an economic man motivated entirely by self-interest. The author of nearly twenty books, Samuel Bowles has most recently written The Moral Economy: Why Good Incentives Are No Substitute for Good Citizensand A Cooperative Species: Human Reciprocity and Its Evolution.
In today's conversation, we follow the archeological record of economic man. We pursue the path towards rational expectations and utility maximization. We take the road from Aristotle, paying heed to his ethics, and to his conviction that the test of a good constitution, is a good citizenry. But, with the collapse of Rome and Europe's descent into darkness emerge ideas of life as brutish and man, as wicked. Thomas Hobbes' Leviathan and Niccolò Machiavelli's Prince, were written to appeal to the lowest, most unimpressive motives of man's animal nature. Later, political economists like Bernard Mandeville and Adam Smith would take this notion further. They sought to harness the industries of avarice, converting man's self-interest towards the public good. The invisible hand emerged, and with it, notions of separability. Homo Sapiens existed in one realm, and economic man in another. The beneficent, moral being on the one hand, and the selfish, utility maximizing agent on the other. Laws were built upon this framework. Ideas of the marketplace were developed. Incentives and regulations were crafted, in what economists call Mechanism Design. What have we learned in the years since that have challenged the foundations of these neoclassical assumptions? What has come of rational expectations and utility maximization? What are some of the insights of behavioral economists, moral philosophers, and evolutionary psychologists that task the fitness of economic man? What types of systems can we design that are better suited towards the citizens of Aristotle's legislator than to the aberrations of modern economic man?
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| 0:00.0 | What's up everybody? |
| 0:09.0 | What's up everybody? |
| 0:10.0 | Welcome to another episode of Hidden Forces with me, Dimitri Kofinus. |
| 0:15.0 | Today we speak with Sam Bowles. Dr. Bowles is a research professor at the Santa Fe Institute |
| 0:21.0 | where he heads the behavioral sciences program. |
| 0:24.0 | His studies on cultural and genetic evolution have challenged the conventional economic assumptions |
| 0:29.7 | that people are motivated entirely by self-interest. He is the author of nearly 20 books such as The |
| 0:35.7 | Moral Economy and a cooperative species. He served as an economic advisor to the governments of |
| 0:41.7 | Cuba, South Africa and Greece as, as well as to the U.S. presidential |
| 0:46.5 | candidates Robert F. Kennedy and Jesse Jackson. |
| 0:50.3 | In this episode, we follow the archaeological record in pursuit of the footprints of Homo |
| 0:56.7 | Economicus, the only known rationally expectant utility maximizing hominid ever to walk the earth. We take the road from Aristotle paying heed to his |
| 1:07.8 | ethics and to his convictions that laws should not be made to restrain evil, but to cultivate good that this was the test of a good constitution. |
| 1:18.0 | But with the collapse of Rome and Europe's dissent into darkness emerged ideas of life as brutish and man as wicked. |
| 1:25.9 | Hobbes is Leviathan and Machiavelli's prince were driven not by the aspirations of man's highest |
| 1:31.4 | ideals but by appealing to the lowest most |
| 1:33.9 | unimpressive motives of his animal nature. Later political economists like |
| 1:38.9 | Bernard Mandeville and Adam Smith took this further seeking to harness the industries of Averis converting |
| 1:45.6 | self-interest towards the public good. |
| 1:48.8 | The invisible hand emerged and with it notions of separability. |
| 1:52.4 | Homo sapien existed in one realm and Homo |
| 1:55.0 | economicus in another. |
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