Walter Isakson set out to write about a world-changing genius in Elon Musk and found a man addicted to chaos and conspiracy.

I'm thinking it's idiotic to buy Twitter because he doesn't have a fingertip feel for social emotional networks.

The book launched a thousand hot takes,

so I sat down with Isakson to try to get past the noise.

I like the fact that people who say I'm not as tough on Musk

as I should be are always using anecdotes for my book to show why we should be tough on Musk.

Join me, Evan Ratliff, for On Musk with Walter Isickson.

Listen on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Cheryl McCollum, host of the Cole Case Podcast, zone 7.

Join us every Wednesday to hear cases like the Long Island serial killer.

You show like genuine interest and you can't fake it but these guys can see like right

through to your soul so you have to be like prepared. If you

don't know your stuff they're gonna just call you out. Listen to Zone 7

with Cheryl McCollum on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

I'm Curtis Fitzin Jackson.

And I'm Charlie Webster.

The podcast Surviving Al Chappo, the Twins who brought down a drug lord, returns for a second season,

and picks right back up with Pete and Jay Flores, taking their first steps on US soil,

after turning themselves in to the US government.

When the plane landed, I think it was the first time I ever felt like,

why are we doing this?

Here details from their 14 year prison sentence

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