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🗓️ 11 June 2021
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0:00.0 | I'm Ezra Klein and this is the Ezra Klein Show. |
0:20.2 | So a few months ago I came across this really fascinating essay by Sam Altman called |
0:24.2 | Moore's Law for everything. Altman is the CEO of OpenAI which is one of the biggest |
0:30.0 | and most interesting of the companies trying to create general purpose artificial intelligence. |
0:35.2 | So an AI that can improve itself and learn and actually do all sorts of things in the |
0:39.5 | economy and in the world. I've met him a few times and he is a believer. He sees a world |
0:44.9 | coming. He believes he is bringing a world into existence. It is really, really different |
0:49.6 | than the one you and I know and that it's going to happen fast. And who knows? Maybe he's |
0:53.6 | right. But what caught my eye about this essay Moore's Law for everything is Altman's |
0:58.8 | effort to try and imagine the political consequences of true artificial intelligence and the policies |
1:04.8 | that could decide whether it usher in utopia or dystopia. So Moore's Law is the observation |
1:10.4 | the number of transistors on microchips doubles every two years or to put it more simply |
1:15.0 | that computer power has been growing exponentially for decades now. But prices have actually |
1:19.3 | been falling. That's not in the case for housing or health care or higher education. But |
1:25.5 | what if it was Altman's argument is a true AI could get us closer to Moore's Law for |
1:29.9 | everything. It can make everything better even as it makes everything cheaper. And I have |
1:34.4 | some points of skepticism here. You're going to hear them in the conversation. But maybe |
1:38.2 | he's right. I hope he's right. That would be good. But if you grant his argument if |
1:44.3 | he is right, then he says the world looks like this AI will create phenomenal wealth. But |
1:49.6 | it'll do so by driving the price of a lot of labor to basically zero. That is how everything |
1:55.5 | gets cheaper. It's also how a lot of people lose our jobs to make that world a good world |
2:00.6 | for people to make that a utopia rather than a dystopia. It requires really radical policy |
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