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The Indicator from Planet Money

Salvaging democratic capitalism, with Martin Wolf

The Indicator from Planet Money

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4.79.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2023

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Open markets together with free and fair elections have long been the American ideal. But, in his new book, Financial Times chief economics commentator Martin Wolf argues this is a fragile marriage that is spinning towards divorce.

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0:00.0

NPR.

0:07.0

To Martin Wolf, democracy is in trouble.

0:15.5

We see very clear erosion of the legitimacy of the functioning of democratic norms in high

0:24.0

income, developing countries, above all the US, and to a lesser extent the UK.

0:30.6

Martin Wolf is the chief economics commentator for the financial times, and he has a new

0:35.1

book out today in the US, The Crisis of Democratic Capitalism.

0:39.6

Martin thinks this erosion of democratic norms is driven by upheavals in the economy.

0:45.1

For one thing, we're not getting better at producing as much stuff and services at the

0:49.4

same pace as we used to.

0:51.4

The productivity growth has collapsed almost across the developed world, and if the society

0:56.5

isn't getting richer, then the only way some people become richer is if other people

1:02.4

get poorer.

1:04.6

This is the indicator from planet money I'm Darian Woods.

1:07.4

Today on the show, why Martin Wolf thinks democratic capitalism might be in deep trouble,

1:13.1

and what he thinks could be done about it.

1:19.6

democratic capitalism has been the standard arrangement for most high-end-conquan countries

1:24.1

for the last 80 years.

1:26.2

But Martin Wolf sees the system as a very fragile marriage, and partly that's because of

1:31.9

his personal background.

1:33.6

My parents were both refugees from Hitler, and they got out successfully, but in both my

1:41.0

parents' case, their wider families, which were very large, were all killed in the Holocaust.

1:47.1

I became convinced that a crucial element in the collapse of the German attempt above

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