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Sadder but NOT Wiser: New Study Shows Gloomy 'Eeyore' People Not More Realistic than Optimists

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🗓️ 24 October 2022

⏱️ 16 minutes

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A new review of a landmark psychology study challenges the longstanding view that depressed people are wiser because they're more realistic. The original study has been taught for decades in Intro Psych courses, cited by thousands of scholars, and has crept into the culture as an article of faith. Scott Ott, Stephen Green and Bill Whittle create five new episodes of Right Angle each week funded by our Members. When you become a Member, you unlock access to backstage content, the Member-written blog and forums as well as comment sections. You can test-drive Membership for as little as $9.95/month. If you don't love your new conservative friends within 30 days, just drop us a note and get a full, rapid and cheerful refund. Just tap the big green button at https://BillWhittle.com to start. If you enjoyed this show, and want to say thanks with a donation, use the big blue button at https://BillWhittle.com

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0:00.0

If you're ever asked to participate in a study, realize they're going to be lying to you.

0:07.6

Are you sad but wise?

0:10.5

I'm Scott Ott with Bill Whittle and Stephen Green.

0:12.3

This episode of Right Angle is brought to you by the members at Bill Whittle.com.

0:15.9

And gentlemen, I read of a study that attempted to replicate a former study that's considered a landmark in

0:24.6

psychology that was conducted in 1979, where they basically tested people who were self-proclaimed

0:31.7

depressed people and other people who were self-proclaimed as not being depressed.

0:37.0

And the depressed people predicted

0:39.4

or said that the results of the study, that their depressed nature led them to believe that they

0:46.0

didn't have any control over the events in their lives or the actions that they took and what

0:50.6

happened as a result of that. And so for years, this has been taught in introductory psychology classes as something called

0:56.4

depressive realism or the sadder but wiser thesis.

1:01.7

In other words, depression is a gift.

1:05.7

And the great benefit of that gift is that you have a much more realistic view of life, unlike those

1:12.7

unreasonably optimistic people who are biased because of their rosy view of the way that

1:18.7

things might come out. Stephen Green, I thought this was interesting because the new study

1:24.3

basically said there were no strong correlations in either direction.

1:30.3

And a 2012 aggregation of 75 other studies basically said the same thing.

1:36.4

There was minimal impact of somebody being depressed as far as their view of whether they could control events and that any results that were seen may have

1:46.1

had to do with the design of the studies. However, this view has kind of infected itself into the

1:53.7

culture. I mean, that original 1979 study has been quoted and cited by some 2,000 scholars since then.

2:02.7

And it has been almost like an article of faith in the culture that depressed people are

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