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Doctrine and Devotion

Sacrifice, Submission, and Cigars

Doctrine and Devotion

Joe Thorn & Jimmy Fowler

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

The guys answer an email from a listener about “celebratory cigars,” and how to handle the smoking situation when his wife doesn’t exactly approve. This leads to a good conversation about handling disagreements in marriage and the practices of sacrifice and submission.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to doctrine and devotion. It's a podcast that explores Christian faith and practice

0:19.2

from a reformed Baptist perspective. My name is Joe Thorn, I'm the lead pastor of

0:23.1

Redeemer Fellowship in St. Charles, Illinois. And I'm Jane Fowler, executive

0:26.2

pastor at Redeemer Fellowship. See my hat over there? Ooh, the J hat? The J hat.

0:31.6

That's a nice hat. No, I've not seen that before. Mm-hmm. New? Well, you know, the

0:36.6

Anderson's, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, the Anderson's were in Georgia and while they were in

0:45.3

Georgia, they went to a coffee shop. Now, the Anderson's own fresh ground. Yep.

0:48.9

Yep. Coffee and so they were coffee roasters. And while they were in Georgia,

0:53.6

they went to a coffee shop. And while they were there, they, uh, they were saying,

0:59.8

hey, we're from St. Charles and the owner of the coffee shop was like, oh, yeah. Yeah.

1:04.2

Uh, I know a couple of guys. I listened to their podcasts. A couple of guys, uh,

1:06.9

the podcast that I did, Jimmy and Joe and probably said Joe and Jimmy. And probably Jimmy and Joe,

1:11.4

but yeah, probably Joe and Jimmy and Joe and probably not. And, uh, and they're like, yeah,

1:15.6

those are our pastors. And he's like, no way. And so he was, um, he was saying how like, man,

1:21.8

I was in ministry and vocational ministry. And, uh, and those guys really kept me saying, like,

1:29.1

I didn't, uh, I didn't lose my mind. And in part, it was because like they were,

1:35.3

they were helping me meet to just sort of process and think through. He was, uh, he was really.

1:39.4

That's really kind. So, um, yeah. So this is in, I think the long,

1:43.9

Gia Georgia, I don't know, some crazy sound in the city in Georgia. And, uh, yeah,

1:49.3

it's a, it's a coffee shop. I'm trying to break on the name of the coffee shop.

1:53.1

That's not like the guy owns the coffee shop. So it's fine. Yeah, he does. Oh, it's a coffee shop.

1:56.3

Yeah. Oh, I follow them on, on, on Instagram. What do you find out that? So he sent me a hat.

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