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Unpacking Israeli History

Sabra and Shatila: What Happened And Why It Matters [Rerelease]

Unpacking Israeli History

Unpacked

Society & Culture, Judaism, History, Religion & Spirituality

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

In this re-released episode, we examine the 1982 Sabra and Shatila massacre, a tragic and controversial event that continues to shape perceptions of Israeli history and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. We explore Israel's complex involvement, the role of the Lebanese paramilitary, and the lasting implications of this event. By re-examining these historical facts with empathy and nuance, we aim to promote deeper, more informed conversations about this and other difficult moments in Israeli history. The story of Sabra and Shatila is a horrifying one. A paramilitary Lebanese group massacres between 800 and 2,000 refugees, many in horrifying ways. And oddly...Israel is blamed for this awful, awful crime? This week, Noam will break down the confusing and upsetting story of Sabra and Shatila, and in doing so, will ask, how does a nation deal with power and responsibility? ~~~~ Unpacking Israeli History is generously sponsored by Alan Fisher and Barbara Sommer, and Jon and Rachie Teller, and this episode is generously sponsored by Yoni & Lisa Wintner. ~~~~ Learn more about Unpacked: https://jewishunpacked.com/about/ Visit Unpacked on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/unpacked  Unpacking Israeli History about the Munich Olympics: https://jewishunpacked.com/munich-olympics-when-terrorism-won/ Unpacking Israeli History about the disengagement from Gaza: https://jewishunpacked.com/gush-katif-when-jews-expelled-jews/ ~~~~ Sources: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ySAfsPqfQXy0ZSZa65BGjg0DqggACzw0ut7ukMYIMAA/edit?usp=sharing ~~~~ Unpacked is a division of OpenDor Media

Transcript

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0:00.0

I was recently in a conversation with someone about the history of Israel when I mentioned

0:03.9

Sovereign Chateila.

0:04.9

The person's response was psychologically insightful, but historically off.

0:10.6

She said to me, oh, Sovereign Ch Chautila, isn't that Daryacinth?

0:15.0

Oh, the difficult moments in his early history, how they get muddled,

0:18.0

but also how they get categorized together.

0:21.0

In the world of psychology, this is called a schema,

0:24.2

which is basically a mental model to help people organize information.

0:28.2

But D'Artagnan and Sab-Shatila are different,

0:31.2

separated by a little over 30 years and in a very different reality, and a different

0:36.0

locale.

0:37.0

But for those who know about Sabra and Chatela, the name triggers a strong reaction.

0:42.8

It goes something like this.

0:44.3

Someone makes a claim that Israel has the most moral army of all time

0:47.7

or that Palestinians kill civilians.

0:49.8

But Israel only targets terrorists.

0:52.0

And then someone else responds with oh yeah what about

0:54.7

Darien slash Kibia slash sovereign shatila that's the schema and that's it conversation over and

1:02.2

I'll tell you the truth.

1:04.0

Or my truth.

1:06.0

You know why the conversation is over?

1:08.0

Not because it's true.

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