Sabine Hossenfelder vs. Bernardo Kastrup: Superdeterminism Debate

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Curt Jaimungal

Physics, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

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🗓️ 24 February 2022

⏱️ 77 minutes

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I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE Sabine Hossenfelder and Bernardo Kastrup on superdeterminism, statistical independence, and consciousness in measurement.0:00 Introduction4:16 Superdeterminism overview8:31 Bernardo's agreements / disagreements13:15 Violating statistical independence (SI)15:59 Hidden variables in Superdeterminism18:20 Is statistical independence a mere assumption?22:41 Is Superdeterminism falsifiable?31:17 Criticism of proposed experiments38:35 Does experiment change the outcome measured?44:57 Decoherence and the observer49:22 Consciousness is irrelevant in QM52:37 Why oppose violating SI?55:57 No good reason to depart with SI59:10 Holding Sabine to higher standards than Bell?1:01:31 Definition of measurement1:02:22 [Pais] Unification via "Super Force"1:05:18 "Without thought, there is no science"1:07:22 Falsifying idealism1:13:20 Upcoming Salvatore Pais interviewSPONSORS:- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal- Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE- PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e- Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything- Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerchRESOURCES:- https://www.youtube.com/c/SabineHossenfelder- https://arxiv.org/abs/1401.0286- https://arxiv.org/abs/1105.4326- https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.02676- https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.01327- https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.06282- https://www.bernardokastrup.com/- https://www.nature.com/articles/s41567-020-0990-x- http://ispcjournal.org/journals/2017-19/Kastrup_19.pdf- https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.01826- https://www.nature.com/articles/nature05677- https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/12/12/123007/meta- https://arxiv.org/abs/1902.05080- https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0085-3- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023%2FA%3A1012682413597- https://books.google.nl/books/about/Mindful_Universe.html?id=pArDC3K3O2UC- http://ispcjournal.org/journals/2017-19/Kastrup_19.pdf- https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.49.1804- https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9806043- https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9810080- https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10119- https://www.nature.com/articles/nphys3343- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1026096313729- https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9609002- http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Recall that you can click on the timestamp in the description to skip this intro.
0:04.0	It's generally beneficial to speak to one another live, as facial expressions and vocal tonality convey much that's lost over text,
0:11.0	especially text that's limited to a certain amount of characters.
0:14.0	That's one of the reasons for today's theolocation with Sabina Hosenfelder and Bernardo Castrop, as the medium of Twitter has one's Twitter following requesting bloodshed.
0:23.1	However, truculence pales in comparison to congenial mutual constructiveness and the latter is which theologutions are, or at least what they are at their best.
0:33.2	Sabina Hossenfeldr is a theoretical physicist researching quantum gravity, as well as having the ever elucidating YouTube channel, Sabina Hostenfelder, link in the description, as well as being a researcher, one of the prime researchers in super determinism.
0:48.0	Super determinism is what brings us here today, at least thematically, and at most inevitably, if the theory is to be believed.
0:55.0	Bernardo Castro is the executive director of the Ascentia Foundation.
0:58.0	All links are in the description, by the way.
1:00.0	Bernardo is one of the most cogent champions of metaphysical idealism,
1:04.0	the view that reality is essentially mental,
1:07.0	put forward with the analytical precision imbued in him
1:10.0	from his PhD in philosophy and computer engineering.
1:13.3	Click on the timestamp in the description if you'd like to skip this intro.
1:16.6	My name is Kurtzai Mungle. I'm a Torontoian filmmaker with a background in mathematical physics
1:21.9	dedicated to the explication of the variegated terrain of theories of everything.
1:26.7	From a theoretical physics perspective
1:28.8	But as well as analyzing consciousness and seeing its potential connection to fundamental reality
1:34.2	Whatever that is essentially this channel is dedicated to exploring the underived nature of reality the constitutional laws that govern it
1:41.8	Provided those laws exist at all and are even knowable to us.
1:44.5	If you enjoy witnessing and engaging with others on the topics of psychology, consciousness,
1:49.5	physics, etc., the channel's themes, then do consider going to the Discord and the subreddit,
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