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But actually, I would love for you for this episode to support cure international. Peter Chalo is my guest today. He serves as a chief program officer of cure international, which has locations in Kenya, Malawi, Uganda, Niger, Ethiopia, Zambia and Philippines. Peter previously served as the executive director of cure, Kenya, cure, Zambia, cure, Malawi.

And the interim executive director of cure, Uganda, he holds an MA in global health care management and leadership, as well as an MBA from the United States International University. He's married to his wife, and they have four kids together around the same age as my kids actually.

And I met Peter last June when my family and I visited cure international, a gospel centered hospital doing, I try not to be over the top, doing some of the most amazing kingdom work I've ever personally experienced. And that's what this whole podcast is about.

I think Peter is going to unpack that for us. I just our one day that we visited cure, I walked away and just stunned at the level and depth of the kingdom impact that this ministry is doing and just found Peter to be an absolute delight and the way this ministry is run is just off the chart amazing.

And I was I'm still I'm just a year ago when I would visit it, and I'm still just really in from that experience. And so I'm so excited for you to get to know Peter, Chalo and the ministry going on at cure international. So please welcome to theology Ralph, the first time from Nairobi, Kenya, Peter, Chalo.

All right, hey friends, welcome back to another episode of theologian era. I am so, so, so excited about this conversation with my friend. I'll say friend, even though we only met briefly in Kenya, Peter, Chalo, who is part of a ministry called cure international.

And last summer, last June, my family and I went out to visit a few ministries in Nairobi and one of them was cure and Peter was kind enough to show us around the hospital. And I was Peter, I was so blown away at the level of kingdom impact that you guys are doing and hearing your thought behind the whole thing and just the level of

the logical thoughtfulness that has gone into your ministry. I just I'm still I just told my wife the other day. I'm like, I'm still want to think about cure. It's just it's just so unbelievable what you guys are doing. So anyway, thank you, Peter, for coming out to find guys tell us who you are.

What you do and I'm sure we'll have lots of time to unpack what you are doing there at cure international.

Well, thank you very much and thank you for having me. I'm looking forward to this discussion. So my name is Peter, Chalo and I think when I think about myself and that's always an interesting question. So just tell us about yourself.

So, you know, I do a number of things. My wife and I have four children. All this is in college and then we have three little girls and so we are a busy household.

So I try and balance all the different responsibilities that I have being a father, being a husband, working for cure and and also being an active follow of Christ.

That is important and is important and and really informs sort of my thought process. What I do the things that I'm involved in and so my wife and I involved a church and we help mentor young couples as well.

So yeah, so a lot on on my plate, but I think above all just grateful that the Lord gives me the grace to be able to just leave every day at a time.

Alright, so tell us about cure international. When did it start? What's the mission behind it? What is it that you guys you guys do?

So cure International started in 1998 and it was started by Dr. Scott and Sally Harrison and Dr Dr. Harrison was a businessman who was involved in in missions and he started going to Malawi.

We're actually one of our hospitals is and in 1986 and so he went there and every time he went, it was almost almost very interesting because there were a number of things that were consistent.

So every time you went back, there were more patients that were waiting to you, the hospital sort of an infrastructure and the support just kept getting poor and poor.

He did to do really complex operations and then he was unable to do all that he you know he was trying to do and he could do because hospitals do not have equipment, do not have the manpower and so on.

Do not have stable power. Just some things that you might take for granted. I think it's important to be able to have electricity when you're operating and when you don't have that becomes problematic.

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