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S9 Ep. 25: Reading Between the Lines

Breakdown

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

True Crime, Politics, News

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2023

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

After mulling it over for three weeks, Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney decided to release three sections of the report, concluding "the compelling public interest in these proceedings and the unquestionable value and importance of transparency require their release." The special grand jurors reveal they have included vote tallies on each recommendation included in the report and they say they suspect one or more witnesses may have lied under oath while testifying. In Episode 25 legal experts discuss what was made public and also what was not made public. So far, only about one-third of the nine-page document has been released. Shortly after the release of the three portions of the final report, former President Donald Trump posts "total exoneration" on his social media site. But legal observers tell Breakdown it is far too early for the former president to be claiming such a thing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's worth knowing which really going on.

0:04.0

This is the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

0:08.0

Previously on Breakdown.

0:18.0

At this time in the interest of justice and the rights of not the state but others,

0:26.0

we are asking that the report not be released because you haven't seen that report.

0:32.0

Decisions are imminent.

0:35.0

There's enormous public interest in what they have said and that exists in this state.

0:40.0

It exists across the nation. It exists beyond the nation.

0:43.0

And we believe the statutory law supports its public release right now.

0:49.0

We believe the case law supports its public release right now.

0:53.0

And we believe constitutional law, including our own state constitution,

0:58.0

requires its release right now.

1:01.0

This is not simple. I think the fact that we had to discuss this for 90 minutes shows

1:06.0

that it is somewhat extraordinary, Mr. Clyde, partly what's extraordinary,

1:11.0

what's at issue here, the alleged interference with the presidential election.

1:15.0

But it's also extraordinary in the plain meaning of that word,

1:19.0

that it's not ordinary to have special purpose grand juries doing things.

1:23.0

That doesn't mean, however, that there hasn't been a course of conduct developed over time

1:28.0

as to what happens with special purpose grand jury reports or sentiments.

1:33.0

It also doesn't mean that we can't figure out a way to assess the final report

1:40.0

through the lens of grand jury secrecy and the statutory scheme for grand juries.

1:47.0

As you heard in our crossover episode with Politically Georgia,

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