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Pints with Jack: The C.S. Lewis Podcast

S8E33 – Narnia – "Narnia and the Fields of Arbol", After Hours with Dr. Matthew Dickerson S8E33 – Narnia – "Narnia Month: Narnia and the Fields of Arbol", After Hours with Dr. Matthew Dickerson

Pints with Jack: The C.S. Lewis Podcast

David Bates, Matt Bush, and Andrew Lazo

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8638 Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Matthew Dickerson comes on the show to discuss the ecology of J. R. R. Tolkien and C. S. Lewis.

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0:00.0

Tolkien once remarked to me that the feeling about home must have been quite different in the days when a family had fed on the produce of the same few miles of country for six generations.

0:13.0

And that perhaps this was why they saw nymphs in the fountains and dryads in the wood.

0:19.0

They were not mistaken, for there was, in a sense, a real, not

0:22.8

metaphorical connection between them and the countryside. What had been earth and air,

0:28.1

and later corn, and later still, bread, really was in them. We, of course, who live on a standardized

0:35.6

international diet, you may have had Canadian flour, English meat, Scottish oatmeal, of course, who live on a standardized international diet, you may have had Canadian

0:38.5

flour, English meat, Scotch oatmeal, African oranges and Australian wine today, are really

0:44.0

artificial beings and have no connection, save in sentiment, with any place on Earth.

0:51.3

We are synthetic men, uprooted. The strength of the hills is not ours. This is Pites

0:59.4

with Jack, season 8, episode 33, Narnia Month. Narnia and the Fields of Arball. After hours

1:06.9

with Dr. Matthew Dickerson.

1:14.1

Welcome friends to Pints with Jack.

1:17.0

This season we've read chapter by chapter through Perilandra.

1:21.0

Explore Jack's bookshelf and spent a month in Narnia.

1:26.1

But this Narnia month is coming to a close today, and we're going to be talking about a subject which was actually requested

1:27.5

by members of our Slack channel, namely the relationship between the inklings and ecology.

1:33.7

And this is why I opened up with that quotation from one of Lewis's letters to his friend,

1:38.8

Arthur Greaves.

1:40.6

Today I'm joined by a guest whose name appeared literally everywhere whenever I started

1:45.7

looking into this subject, Dr. Matthew Dickerson.

1:49.3

Dr. Matthew Dickerson is Professor at Midbury College in Vermont, where he is a member

1:54.0

of the Computer Science Department, an affiliate of the Environmental Studies Program, and

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