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S8 Ep956: Preview for Later Today: Rick Fisher examines the competition between the U.S. Space Force and China's militarized astronaut brigade. He highlights dual-use technologies on the moon and the importance of defending lunar assets if global geopolitics turn s

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 1 June 2026

⏱️ 4 minutes

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Preview for Later Today: Rick Fisher examines the competition between the U.S. Space Force and China's militarized astronaut brigade. He highlights dual-use technologies on the moon and the importance of defending lunar assets if global geopolitics turn sour today.
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0:00.0

Conversation with colleague Rick Fisher.

0:03.1

What is the space force?

0:05.3

How will it serve the U.S.?

0:07.5

When it comes to dealing with the fact that the Chinese appear to be going forward with a space force that is military, combat ready,

0:16.7

will it have weapons?

0:18.5

Unknown at this point.

0:20.5

And Rick points out that they call their tychoats, their astronauts, a brigade, their PLA as well as civilian.

0:28.3

They're both.

0:29.5

Will the space force for the USA match it?

0:32.8

Will we have starship troopers on the moon?

0:36.3

Here's Rick.

0:36.9

Or space force is... have Starship Troopers on the moon. Here's Rick.

0:47.2

Our Space Force is, I would say, studying hard and advocating hard for a range of capabilities that in the future could allow us to actually defend our assets in low Earth orbit and then onto the moon. I mean,

0:56.9

in a sense as well, the United States has already, kind of like the Chinese, invested in a series

1:06.2

of dual use capabilities, capabilities that are designed to achieve peaceful ends, but could

1:14.4

easily be turned to a defense of purpose.

1:18.1

I mean, the 2009 lunar crater observation and sensing satellite fired a missile into a moon

1:27.4

crater to try and turn up dust that another

1:32.0

satellite could then determine whether it contained water ice. But that was a deliberate

1:38.3

bombing of the moon for a scientific outcome.

1:54.8

What NASA is working on today in terms of the future moon base is full of dual use opportunities of a similar nature.

2:04.0

And that is that is reassuring to some degree, but it's not a full commitment to a defensive capability.

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