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S8 Ep910: Peter Mauch explains that in 1937, the Marco Polo Bridge incident sparked conflict between Japan and China. While Tokyo sought de-escalation, the Kwantung Army, including Tojo, pushed for escalation and conquest. Chiang Kai-shek's refusal to surrender dre

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John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2026

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Peter Mauch explains that in 1937, the Marco Polo Bridge incident sparked conflict between Japan and China. While Tokyo sought de-escalation, the Kwantung Army, including Tojo, pushed for escalation and conquest. Chiang Kai-shek's refusal to surrender drew the Japanese military into a "quicksand" interior, creating an inescapable and draining quagmire for the army. (11/16)
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For full terms, visit the QVC website. I'm John Batchler. Peter Mok is here. His book is Tojo, the rise and fall of Japan's most controversial World War II general. You've heard of him. He was the man that the propaganda in the United States during the second war held up as the equivalent to Hitler.

1:49.0

It's this man who's made the war. This man is evil.

1:53.0

And when we get him, we'll win the war.

1:56.0

That was the same opinion of Hitler still is today.

1:59.0

It is not accurate. and Peter is helping us understand

2:02.7

what Tojo represented. It is now 1937. Tojo's been his friend Nagata's dead. The army is still

2:10.7

at odds with itself. The Navy stands apart. The army is occupying. And Chuko, that's the northernmost part of what is today China.

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