S8 Ep901: PREVIEW for Later Today: Mary Kissel discusses the indictment of Raul Castro and a potential United States "carrot and stick" strategy to encourage a political transition in Cuba. This approach leverages regime weaknesses and mirrors North Korean diplomac
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 20 May 2026
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| 0:00.0 | This is John Batchel, conversation with my longtime good colleague Mary Kissel about the indictment of |
| 0:07.3 | Rao Castro for crimes against peaceful people who were flying an unarmed aircraft, Brotherhoods for Rescue in Cuba. |
| 0:15.8 | Cuban people have been enchained for decades. Rao Castro is part of that abuse. However, Mary looks beyond that |
| 0:23.9 | to what could this mean for the people of Cuba? People trapped on the island, people who fled |
| 0:29.3 | and don't have good conditions, people who are successful in the U.S. What does all of it mean? |
| 0:34.0 | What does it point to? Mary thinks there's a playbook here and it might work. |
| 0:38.9 | Here's Mary Kistel to explain much more of this tonight. Well, I read the indictment of |
| 0:43.6 | Raul Castro as justice and long over two, for starters. I mean, the Castro family has kept |
| 0:49.7 | the Cuban people in miserable conditions for decades and decades and decades and profited |
| 0:56.1 | off the backs of their work. |
| 0:57.2 | So I think it's justice. |
| 0:58.4 | I also think it's probably a precursor to, you know, potential U.S. military action in Cuba. |
| 1:06.1 | You know, the Cuban regime is on its last legs. |
| 1:09.3 | And as Secretary of State, Marker Rubioio laid out very clearly in these last days. |
| 1:14.3 | They are out of gas and food and medicine. |
| 1:19.6 | And so I think the United States has quite a lot of leverage. |
| 1:22.8 | And that's why you see so many of these trips happening. |
| 1:32.0 | But, you know, we'll see how it goes. I mean, I was interested to see the language that Secretary of State Rubio used in his address to the Cuban people. |
| 1:39.6 | He said that, you know, President Trump is offering, quote, a new path between the U.S. |
| 1:44.6 | and a new Cuba. |
| 1:45.7 | This is very similar language to what President Trump used in his first term when he offered |
| 1:51.3 | a, quote, bright future to the North Korean people when he was engaging in talks with Kim Jong-un. |
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